Show me your Air to water setups

[kcc0521]

I am thinking about upgrading my Hellion twin turbo to an air to water setup. I would love to see what you guys are running and the how you like the setup. The current A2A is fine until I try to make a full 1/4 pass on a warm day above 80 degrees.

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[80FoxCoupe]

I am thinking about upgrading my Hellion twin turbo to an air to water setup. I would love to see what you guys are running and the how you like the setup. The current A2A is fine until I try to make a full 1/4 pass on a warm day above 80 degrees.

What kind of iat temps are you seeing on a full pass with 80deg ambient?

 

[kcc0521]

At 80 it would be about 140 or so.

 

[80FoxCoupe]

At 80 it would be about 140 or so.

I dont see any issue with that, unless you want to add a bunch of weight with a2w.

 

[Siege]

I ran an A2W setup before but it was on an MR2 Turbo which only had side vents to cool the intercooler which was insufficient airflow when you increased the boost.

For your setup the only gain from an A2W setup would be if it was primarily a drag car so you could ice the tank before runs.

Otherwise an A2A setup will outperform an A2W system on the street and with a lot less complexity.

You can increase the efficiency of your intercooler with ducting to ensure any air entering the openings in the bumper can't go around the intercooler.

 

[HELLION TURBO]

Hello. We now have a couple intercooler upgrades depending on what you are looking to do. We have a 6 inch air to air cooler and we also have a air to water with Genuine Garrett cores. Both will mount in the same location in the front.

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[80FoxCoupe]

Hello. We now have a couple intercooler upgrades depending on what you are looking to do. We have a 6 inch air to air cooler and we also have a air to water with Genuine Garrett cores. Both will mount in the same location in the front.

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Any pics of 6in a2a installed on a s550?

 

[HELLION TURBO]

Hello. Please see attached. This is our 6 inch Air to Air.

 

[80FoxCoupe]

Niiiiiiiice!!!!!

 

[kcc0521]

I ran an A2W setup before but it was on an MR2 Turbo which only had side vents to cool the intercooler which was insufficient airflow when you increased the boost.

For your setup the only gain from an A2W setup would be if it was primarily a drag car so you could ice the tank before runs.

Otherwise an A2A setup will outperform an A2W system on the street and with a lot less complexity.

You can increase the efficiency of your intercooler with ducting to ensure any air entering the openings in the bumper can't go around the intercooler.

I have seen a few guys increase airflow to the intercooler but it did not make much difference in IAT. My car is fine if it is cooler than 80 but much warmer and it gets up to 170 IAT. I think a larger A2A might help but I am not sure how well any A2A works when you are using 95 degree air o cool it.

 

[Siege]

I have seen a few guys increase airflow to the intercooler but it did not make much difference in IAT. My car is fine if it is cooler than 80 but much warmer and it gets up to 170 IAT. I think a larger A2A might help but I am not sure how well any A2A works when you are using 95 degree air o cool it.

I'm curious what your turbo outlet temperatures are pre-intercooler. I plugged your numbers into a calculator and assuming a low range 60% intercooler efficiency it put your outlet temperatures at 305 degrees.

Where are your intakes pulling air in from and what turbos and pressure are you running?

 

[kcc0521]

I went back and looked at my logs on 04/11/21 and the temp was 80 degrees when I made a pass. My starting IAT was 95 and ending IAT was 154. That was on about 16lbs of boost. I have the hellion sleeper kit with them mounted under the car pulling air through the K&N filters up next to the block.

 

[Leonidas514]

I'd be happy with 154 temps.

 

[kcc0521]

I'd be happy with 154 temps.

The car seems to be ok at 150 or under but it picks it knock when it starts getting to 150. Also here in VA and NC the temperature is above 80 during racing season.

 

[80FoxCoupe]

I went back and looked at my logs on 04/11/21 and the temp was 80 degrees when I made a pass. My starting IAT was 95 and ending IAT was 154. That was on about 16lbs of boost. I have the hellion sleeper kit with them mounted under the car pulling air through the K&N filters up next to the block.

That's not bad at all

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