Fair enough. Coming from a tuned 335i I thought the mustang was a ton a fun. And I did not see that coming. I've been driving German cars for years. Never thought I'd drive an American car. I liked it better. Won't argue your preference.
I wouldn't say backwards, maybe a lateral step IMO. I had so much fun in a Mustang GT that I almost traded my M4 in on one. But, I held out for a GT350. I will admit that even that took some convincing from others as I had been in BMWs for quite awhile.
Same here, it's the first American car I've wanted or even really noticed in 2 decades.
Ding, ding, ding. And that's where I am. I could have bought m3/m4, but there are so many more choices that can make the GT badass. Can you mod m4 to over 700 horse, sure. But gonna cost a ton and you still have 6 cyl, albeit a super nice 6cyl. For me, I wanted the V8 and I don't think there is a better bang for the buck or potential, than the mustang. And, I daily drive a 2015 BMW X5 msport.
Absolutely you can mod an M3 to 7-800HP. I have a friend that has done it this summer. The issue is the car my friend drives was 73K to start. He put bigger turbos on it at a cost of 10K. It's now making so much power he's about to destroy the clutches in the transmission. He has a high 10 second car that he can't race from a dig. I can put a beefcake kit on my car. Run low 10s-high 9 with the mods I already have and still have about 35 grand sitting in a saving account.
No matter how the BMW lovers try the M is NOT twice the car the S550 is because it cost twice as much. BMW is overated and a dime a dozen. I just came from a 2013 335i M Sport & my Mustang is WAY more fun to drive and sounds WAY better.Absolutely you can mod an M3 to 7-800HP. I have a friend that has done it this summer. The issue is the car my friend drives was 73K to start. He put bigger turbos on it at a cost of 10K. It's now making so much power he's about to destroy the clutches in the transmission. He has a high 10 second car that he can't race from a dig. I can put a beefcake kit on my car. Run low 10s-high 9 with the mods I already have and still have about 35 grand sitting in a saving account.
Well the friend I mentioned in the above post. Went to Cecil County Drag way last night in search of a 10 second slip. His best run was 11.2@130. The car just keep going into limp mode to protect the transmission. He now says it'll cost another 4 grand to upgrade the clutches. 73 for the car. 10 for the turbo kit. a grand for the tune. 4 grand for clutches. I'm no mathlete but he's pushing 90 grand to do what a Mustang can do for 40??? I don't know if being able to say I drive an M3 is worth that much extra. I'd have went zO6 for that kinda jingle!
Porsche GT4 is a better option than the M. It's also faster and the engine sound is better. I priced out the M's and they aren't worth the money IMHO. Z06 is a much better option and Kerbeck had the 2016's for 20% off so in the range of the M so I agree with you. BMW went in the wrong direction with the inline 6. I've had no interest in them since that.
^This! The affordability factor is what brought me back to the Blue Oval. I'm coming from a 135i a car that is looked upon as "cute" by females but the guys in the know knew what the car was capable of (giant killa!). Was about to pull the trigger on an E92 and of all people my wife reminded me of how expensive it is to maintain/mod BMWs...Ford released the S550 and I was back In like Flynn, American V-8, the rumble, the torque and the ability to mod the car without breaking the bank was a no-brainer for me.
With your two concerns...
I agree that ride quality is subjective. That's why I asked if someone could directly compare the two and be able to say one is more or less comfortable than the other, not that either are comfortable in and of themselves. No ZCP m4s around me here to test.With your two concerns...
1) Ride quality is subjective.. what one person thinks rides well, might not be the same for someone else. Meaning some people like a firm sports car feel, while other want plush. Either way, if you didn't like the ride of the Mustang, having an extra 40k on hand, you can change the suspension to your liking. Even if you throw 5k at the suspension you're still going to be up 35k.
2) Tire roar? I have the all-seasons and the cabin is super quiet, IMO. Once again, this is something easily addressed with a tire change.
Go drive a few cars.
I drive a Mustang because I prefer to not have the pompous police on my ass all the time. :lol: .....umm and that is a joke for the tight wads.