Like twin turbo said, this will be coming out in 2020 and it will be a force to be rekoned with. But I imagine the s650 will as well. For now the challenger will remain the same for the most part.on an Alfa Romeo based chassis/body. If it is, it will probably weigh several hundred pounds less. It will probably run a V6 TT or a 6.4 that has been tweaked to 500 HP. (the Hellcat/Demons will keep the supercharged 6.2).
No one knows what will actually happen with the muscle wars right now. Camaro may surprise us with improvements too.
86 ft*lbs/liter sounds a bit optimistic. I'm thinking more like 410 - 415.I believe it will have north of 470 horsepower and around 430 torque. If that is the case, it should be slightly faster than the Camaro. I don't think the Challenger stands a chance. :lol: If it comes out with 480 to 500 horsepower, it will definitely be class leading.
The 10 speed by itself ensures the new car will be notably faster in any direction. the mag ride ensures it will be faster around corners. Add in AT LEAST 20 more horses with comparable torque increase, and I think the new car will be a different animal.haha 455 is what it will be and it wont be that much faster then the 15-17s imo. people will be paying for the mag ride and the 10 speed thats it
Well let's see if there's any weight loss but I highly doubted. The 5.0 really needs more torque than anything. 30 more HP, 40 lbs of torque then it will probably even things up. The Alpha chassis put the weight of the 1SS to 3600 lbs with a 1/4 tank of gas. So less weigh and torque is where the Camaro really has the edge.The 10 speed by itself ensures the new car will be notably faster in any direction. the mag ride ensures it will be faster around corners. Add in AT LEAST 20 more horses with comparable torque increase, and I think the new car will be a different animal.
Looking forward to seeing what the official numbers will be though. If it's 465-475, then it's pretty much a performance monster. At 455, it will be somewhat competitive, but still slower than the Camaro, which would be a shame.
More gears in the transmission will most likely increase torque at the rear wheels - the only place that torque matters.The 5.0 really needs more torque than anything.
Doesn't the gt350 with 5.2 lt and 12:1 compression ratio only has 426 lbft? Expecting more than that on a 5.0 lt is kinda stretching. Direct injection should help but we ll see.With a larger bore and more compression there will be more torque..there's no question of it. The current coyote already has 400 ft lb's, so I'm guessing 420-425 tq is a good guess, with HP coming in at around 470 HP at 6,800 RPM.
It also is designed to continue making power to 8,000 RPM, so the cams are designed in such a way to facilitate that.Doesn't the gt350 with 5.2 lt and 12:1 compression ratio only has 426 lbft? Expecting more than that on a 5.0 lt is kinda stretching. Direct injection should help but we ll see.
You guys are starting to sound like the Gen 6 Camaro owners.The 10 speed by itself ensures the new car will be notably faster in any direction. the mag ride ensures it will be faster around corners. Add in AT LEAST 20 more horses with comparable torque increase, and I think the new car will be a different animal.
Looking forward to seeing what the official numbers will be though. If it's 465-475, then it's pretty much a performance monster. At 455, it will be somewhat competitive, but still slower than the Camaro, which would be a shame.
Actually it could be worth considerably more.You guys are starting to sound like the Gen 6 Camaro owners.
All of the things listed above will probably be good for a .5 (drag) to 1 (track) second difference over the current model. If additional weight is added, I wouldn't even expect that much.