GT350 vs. Z/28

thePill said:

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02gtnh said:

So your taking this guys word for it and telling everyone that Chevy cheated and acting like its fact. That's pretty gullible.

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02gtnh said:

I've watched tons of those videos, and they all seem to end at the same place. I'm sure if they were pulling this stuff it would be brought up by more official people then some guy on a forum.

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02gtnh said:

Are not these gps timers, they start at a point and end at a point. So who sets start and end spots for the day. They start from a rolling start, so who's says they didn't start a bit early? If that time was in question, I'm sure Ford or other manufacturers would question it to make them look bad.

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thePill said:

Um, did you see where the clock stopped and where the finish line was at? You need to stop the stop watch at the finish line, not 1/2 a second before...

You pass a lot of manufacturers best efforts cheating 0.5 seconds off your lap time at the Ring. Show some decency and dignity...

The z28's "Official" Nurburgring Lap time is flawed by Chevy's own hand. They clearly stopped the stop watch prior to the finish line... A whole 11 frames prior, about 4/10ths of a second. That is a possible 7:38 and, would have put it in a different company.

Then, they never show anyone the ACTUAL z28 that lapped the 7:37.47 (that was attained by stopping the stopwatch early). Unlike the Ring ZL1, the Nurburg"rain" z28 has gone missing. It shows up in the Press Kit, doing laps at GM's Test Track in Michigan... with NO racing serious racing equipment installed... As if its stock, even down to the OEM seatbelt. Don't gimme that crap... The ZL1 was in FULL body armor when it did it's 7:41.

Doesn't matter really, the ZL1 was caught cheating at the Ring too. It started the watch LATE on it's run... Why would Ford (or how could Ford) compete with a cheat?

If the GT350R runs a 7:32.19, awesome... If they did indeed run a 7:28 too, great... If the GT350TP ends up being near (or maybe better I hear) the 2014 z28's Ring time for $20,000 cheaper... that is fantastic...

What's next??? An 11.9@120 in the 1/4?

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thePill said:

Appearently, video of the 7:32.19 run was put up and taken down. I am eager to see the run itself... Someone who seen the video said the road looked wet and the GT350 was all over the place in some areas.

In bigger news, Seven Oh Joe (aka Lowdown) has been suspended on Camaro5.

Hahaha!!

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02gtnh said:

I read the write up on that time and it said it was done back in September. I wonder why so late to leak to hear it now.

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'thePill', on 12 Jun 2011 - 07:27 AM, said:
Long time reader and first time poster. I am currently stationed in Kaiserslauthern, Germany and was informed on Tuesday that there was a new GT500 testing at Nurburgring. I went up on Wednesday and Thursday to check it out. There were quite a few club members there and they were clocking both cars throughout the week. You could not get near the vehicles (not that I would try) and no questions were answered. It rained Monday, Tuesday and some on Wednesday and was cool and clear the rest of the week (about 65-72). I could not hear a supercharger or a turbo but I was not very close to the actual track and exhaust was pretty decent (and tire noise). Club members here clocked the red GT500 around a best of 7:30 and the black one around 7:40. There were two passengers most of the time with the occasional driver only run. The cars would do 2-3 laps of 8 minute laps and then move to a 7:XX lap so it seems heat soak was being looked at as well. It was said that Karl Gieger was there personally but I don't know if anybody from the US has heard of him. The traffic was pretty low when I went up on Wednesday and Thursday and I was told that the it was that way pretty much all week. Both cars would do 2-3 laps, sometimes running together, sometimes one at a time and then they would disappear for 30 minutes. There were a series of 10 minute laps (which is slow) and as I said, multiple time keepers clocked the cars mid 7 minutes at their best under very good weather and traffic. This is all I know, I have iPhone video of some turns but it really sucks and the audio was crappy so I didn't keep them, the group I was in picked a location way too far from the track IMO. We were told that there would be photos and video online later this month so I didn't care about the video. I was surprised when I checked the internet late Thursday night and found it posted already.

Anyway, I thought the lap times would be interesting at least, I am trying to circulate this info as much as possible. I was also told that a local guy ran his Boss 302 LS at a 7:45-7:49 which is right on par with the BMW M3 GTS and the Audi R8 V10 but this, along with everything else I was told is all hearsay. I did however, confirm a 7:35 from the red GT500 and a 7:43 from the black car via a club members stop watch so... I can see a 7:30 and a 7:40 from these cars. There was speculation about the Red GT500 being a Nurburgring edition and the other being a future production GT500 SVTPP. There was speculation that maybe one was a manual and one was an auto and that one was a 2012 and the red one was a 2013.... either way, they were both very fast and ran most of the day for most of the week...

Hope this helps...

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Todd15Fastback said:

Found this online.

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