2017 GT Procharger IMRC lines not matching up

ahl395 · Apr 28, 2017

Hey guys, i need some urgent help.

I am installing my P1X and my IMRC lines on my car do not match the manual! There is no Y fitting anywhere and i do not know what to do.

I called Procharger, sent them pictures and never heard back, and now they're closed for the weekend.

Pictures below. Where the manual shows lines coming out of the IMRC devices, i have black caps. I searched all over and under the area and there is no Y fitting as described. The line that I am holding in my hand is the only line i see that goes back through the intake manifold to the IMRC, but it goes to the factory vaccuum manifold and does not look like Procharger's manual does.

Any help is extremely appriciated.

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15dib · Apr 28, 2017

Haven't seen that before. Mine was exactly how the picture shows.

beefcake · Apr 28, 2017

which intake? stock or gt350

ahl395 · Apr 28, 2017

I am figuring that if I connect the one line that goes from the IMRC to the vacuum manifold to the procharger location that it should still accomplish the same task. IMRC needs connection to vsccuum,

i am guessing they just changed the connections and layout. Any opinions?

ahl395 · Apr 28, 2017

beefcake said:
which intake? stock or gt350

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markmurfie · Apr 28, 2017

That looks like an older style ford solenoid for IMRC(maybe ford switch back to it). The new ones(2015-2016) vented to the intake in front of the TB which basically sees atmosphere or slightly less all the time. I think those just block the path so the diaphragm doesnt see vaccum.

yours are 2 way vaccum or blocked. The ones with three hoses(3 way) are vaccum/block/ vented to intake. You are either going to have to delete imrc as boost is going to get through these solenoids or you may not have to do anything as they will block the diaphragm from seeing boost which would force the IMRC closed and limit power. You could always replace the solenoids with three way ones if you want to keep the IMRC. Your tuner would need to know what changes to make to utilize them correctly.

ahl395 · Apr 28, 2017

markmurfie said:
That looks like an older style ford solenoid for IMRC(maybe ford switch back to it). The new ones(2015-2016) vented to the intake in front of the TB which basically sees atmosphere or slightly less all the time. I think those just block the path so the diaphragm doesnt see vaccum.

yours are 2 way vaccum or blocked. The ones with three hoses(3 way) are vaccum/block/ vented to intake. You are either going to have to delete imrc as boost is going to get through these solenoids or you may not have to do anything as they will block the diaphragm from seeing boost which would force the IMRC closed and limit power. You could always replace the solenoids with three way ones if you want to keep the IMRC. Your tuner would need to know what changes to make to utilize them correctly.

The way it is hooked up from the factory seems that they would see vacuum, however i guess if they see boost it may not be good for them.

i really dont want to delete them because of the power and mpg loss. what a pain Ford. :frusty:

markmurfie · Apr 28, 2017

ahl395 said:
The way it is hooked up from the factory seems that they would see vacuum, however i guess if they see boost it may not be good for them.

i really dont want to delete them because of the power and mpg loss. what a pain Ford. :frusty:

I haven't looked at prices but they probably are not that expensive. Easy enough to replace. Im sure any tuner would just need to compare your tune to another cars tune that came with the three way ones and could figure out what to change to make them work.

ahl395 · Apr 29, 2017

markmurfie said:
I haven't looked at prices but they probably are not that expensive. Easy enough to replace. Im sure any tuner would just need to compare your tune to another cars tune that came with the three way ones and could figure out what to change to make them work.

It appears its a part of the intake manifold. I wonder if the pre-17 manifold and IMRC will hook up without an issue.

markmurfie · Apr 29, 2017

ahl395 said:
It appears its a part of the intake manifold. I wonder if the pre-17 manifold and IMRC will hook up without an issue.

To replace the solenoid, disconnect these two lines and remove the bolt. Attach the three way solenoid in the reverse order. You will have to do both solenoids. If you plan to go this route. You will also need a line to connect the third port to the intake tube or connect it how ever procharger recommends. Some tuners vent to atmosphere but this can be like having a small boost leak which is not good.

ahl395 · Apr 29, 2017

Got it, thank you.

I suppose I will go this route if no other option.

markmurfie · Apr 29, 2017

Im curious in your gauge cluster does the screen that show you Vaccum/boost can you see boost or just vaccum?

ahl395 · Apr 29, 2017

markmurfie said:
Im curious in your gauge cluster does the screen that show you Vaccum/boost can you see boost or just vaccum?

It's highest value is 0 I believe, so just vacuum.

markmurfie · Apr 29, 2017

I suspect cars with 2 way are like yours and cars with three way like mine I can see boost although it was N/A and would not actually see boost. Maybe a question turbo/centri FI companies need to start asking and come up with a kit or tune for each. Kinda like the weird oil gauge question tuners ask.

ahl395 · Apr 29, 2017

markmurfie said:
I suspect cars with 2 way are like yours and cars with three way like mine I can see boost although it was N/A and would not actually see boost. Maybe a question turbo/centri FI companies need to start asking and come up with a kit or tune for each. Kinda like the weird oil gauge question tuners ask.

Interesting. Procharger is definitely going to have to change thier kit for the 17+ if they want to keep the easy/complete install aspect of it.

Im hoping I can find a junkyard nearby with a wrecked S550. Can't find the part anywhere online. Don't think the dealer will be much help either.

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