Scheduled maintenance and AMSOIL

[luizffgarcia]

Hi guys,

I am almost at 10.000mi so i need to take my car to the first scheduled maintenance. The problem is i use AMSOIL on it and i don't want Ford to put their crappy oil in my engine

I am wondering, can i ask them to put my oil if i take the oil to the dealership? Or can i ask them to not touch the oil and do the oil change somewhere else later and still keep my warranty? I would prefer to change the oil myself because based on my previous experience with dealerships i don't even trust them to actually use the oil i leave there...

Probably i am not the only one in this situation, what do you guys suggest?

Thanks

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[ForTehNguyen]

Yes you can bring your oil to the dealer if you want them to do it.

 

[MikeD1]

Some dealers will use your oil, some will not. Just ask if they will when you schedule your service. If they don't, then get someone else to do it. Just be sure to save all the receipts for the oil, filter & change (with mileage & date noted) as 'proof' you did it should it ever come up as part of a warranty claim.

 

[Chameleon]

I do this and get the change for 10 bucks. Over time, it's good to communicate with the service dept. and build a relationship.

 

[m6pwr]

Some dealers don't have a problem using the customer's oil. If you ask, emphasize that the oil you'll be using meets Ford's specs (presumably that is so).

Before you have the dealers use your oil, there are a couple of things to consider. The oil change bay probably will not have the most highly trained techs. They are accustomed to doing oil changes using the dealer's bulk dispenser -- and not opening and pouring from individual bottles. A small thing, but there's always Murphy' Law, if the people are in a hurry or having a bad day. Cleanliness around lubes is everything.

One other thing: brand loyalty is a great thing, but what makes you think Ford's Motorcraft oils are crappy? Any factual, technical information on which to base your opinion, other than Amsoil's advertising, or hearsay from a friend of a friend who knows a mechanic who really knows oil (they don't)? You might be surprised, but over on the BITOG oil forum of oil-obsessed and oil-anal people, Motorcraft oils have an excellent reputation. In my own case, I'm coming to Ford from a long association with BMW's and their preferred oils, Castrol, and lately Shell. Both excellent oil brands, but I'll have no hesitation at all in using Motorcraft oil when the time comes.

Here's an excerpt from another thread:

I once heard a presentation called "Slippery Secrets" by a PHD chemist from Afton Chemicals, one of the world's largest mfrs of additive packs for motor oil. Unfortunately the link to the video has disappeared from the internet or I'd show it here. He talked about what he called "boutique" motor oils. They are made by the oil companies that are partnered with car manufacturers. They are typically formulated by a team of lubricant engineers (chemists), tribologists (oil dudes highly experienced in managing what happens when metals rub together) and the car mfr's engine development engineers who best know the metallurgy and design of the engine. As a team they can formulate an oil virtually tailor made for the engine or family of engines. Then the oil is rigorously tested in both the lab and over the road. Here's an example of one such testing operation. This one is in Germany but I bet Ford/ConocoPhilips has a similar operation. http://www.isp-testing.com/en/. Note that the testing operation uses RATT (radioactive trace testing technology), an extremely accurate method of measuring engine wear (when metals rub together they produce radioactive isotopes).

Boutique oils are very good oils. Motorcraft oil is a boutique oil.

 

[luizffgarcia]

Thanks, it is good to know i can change the oil outside the dealership. Have any of you guys actually had to use the warranty after not changing the oil at the dealership? Do they try to get away from solving your problem because you chosen not to change the oil with them?

As for the oil quality i get why people may think Motorcraft is a good oil, that is just not my opinion. There are many threads on the internet with information about that.

Either way i would not let them do the change, too many cases of overfilling. I am the only one touching the last quart bottle...

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