Lopsided Ride Height After Lowering

[BMR Tech]

Have I tried it? Yes, I was likely one of the very first people to realize and perform it - and am one of the reasons you see people talking about it so often on here.

Some of the bolts, it helps to have some nice extensions and swivels and also crows feet sockets.

It can be done. I have done it no less than 5 times with the car sitting on its own weight.

If you CANNOT make the TQ at the ride height....you can snug it as much as possible...and droop the suspension to get the TQ click.

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[HappySquirrel]

Have I tried it? Yes, I was likely one of the very first people to realize and perform it - and am one of the reasons you see people talking about it so often on here.

Some of the bolts, it helps to have some nice extensions and swivels and also crows feet sockets.

It can be done. I have done it no less than 5 times with the car sitting on its own weight.

If you CANNOT make the TQ at the ride height....you can snug it as much as possible...and droop the suspension to get the TQ click.

Roger that. Do you think I'd be OK just doing the front with only the front tires on ramps (and then the same for the rears)? I'd rather not buy two sets of ramps if I don't have to (I currently own none, as neither of my cars sit high enough to utilize oil change ramps for oil changes).

Also, is anyone aware of any blocks that are good for this, besides fabricating my own from 2x4s?

 

[wildcatgoal]

Can get 12" Race Ramps for a zillion bucks! I have 12" - I can use my torque wrench at that height usually without a problem. Epic pain the rear end to accomplish getting the car on these though. (I got mine at a garage sale for $40 - 4 12" ones... $40... just a week ago.)

http://www.discountramps.com/wheel-...-54457485169&gclid=CInl1szMrtECFYMSgQodvA4I_A

 

[HappySquirrel]

Can get 12" Race Ramps for a zillion bucks! I have 12" - I can use my torque wrench at that height usually without a problem. Epic pain the rear end to accomplish getting the car on these though. (I got mine at a garage sale for $40 - 4 12" ones... $40... just a week ago.)

http://www.discountramps.com/wheel-...-54457485169&gclid=CInl1szMrtECFYMSgQodvA4I_A

Wow, sounds like you got quite the deal!

 

[HappySquirrel]

Also, if the camber is different enough left to right, your wheel gap will look different, especially on stock wheels that are not spaced out closer to the fender.

Camber is basically equal left to right. According to the alignment printout, the rears measured exactly the same (within their machine's precision) and the fronts were off each other by less than .1°.

 

[CrazedAntelope]

My results were very similar to yours. I bought an ecoboost specific spring kit from a well known manufacturer on this forum. The stance was awful (see picture). I did the BMW e46 spring spacer mod for the rear, in 12mm. That helped some but I wasn't too happy with the spring rates anyways so I bought the rear springs and adjustable perches from the BC racing coilover kit.

 

[BMR Tech]

Ouch....

Our non EB springs look better on an EB than that.

Sorry to see you guys go through this.

 

[Doctor Fishtail]

Hey guys,

A couple of months ago I lowered my car with a set of springs which are supposed to give a slightly forward raked stance. Unfortunately, it didn't work out and I have a very lopsided ride with a forward raked stance on the left side and a rearward raked stance on the right! I'm not going to mention the brand of springs at the moment in case the issue isn't actually with the springs (and I don't want to be accused of slander, etc), although I imagine most of you can figure out what springs I bought. I am at a loss to figure out what could be causing the issue other than incorrectly manufactured springs. However, I didn't have the foresight to measure the springs before installing them (I really didn't even consider this being an issue), nor did I measure the ride height before lowering the car (wish I had). I did the install myself, and here are the current ride heights measured from the ground to the top of the fender well (measured to a precision of approximately 1/16"):

Right Front: 27.5"
Right Rear: 27"
Left Front: 27.25"
Left Rear: 27.5"

As you can see, that's a problem. I don't expect springs to be manufactured to aerospace tolerances, but the fact that the right side is so far raked in the wrong damn direction really pisses me off. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to check if the springs are causing the issue without disassembly? Anyone have any ideas on how to fix the problem (besides changing to different springs or coilovers, or using dangerous methods like heating the springs)?

Any help would be appreciated, and now I will try to head off any obvious questions before they are asked:

1.) The car was aligned about 5 days and 100 miles after installing the springs. I also paid the alignment shop (local guys) to loosen and re-torque all of the suspension points suggested in the 6G suspension re-clocking thread while it was on the drive-on lift, and they said they did so and re-torqued to the appropriate values.
2.) I measured the ride heights on a flat surface, multiple times. I also measured from the wheel center cap to the top of fender and the results matched. I measured on multiple surfaces and I made sure the tires were aired up to within 1 psi of each other. Measurements were taken before and after the alignment and re-clocking and there was no significant difference.
3.) Spring installation was done by myself. Other than the springs the suspension is completely stock.
4.) I did my best to triple-check all phases of the installation. I was very careful about checking the spring seating and the seating of the rubber boots. I also double checked the front sway bar connections and everything else. I'm 99% sure I didn't screw up anything with the install (the car rides great, other than being lopsided).
5.) I did contact the spring manufacturer after the install and they basically said (paraphrasing slightly), "1/4-inch of difference is normal even for factory springs, make sure you drive it for at least a week, re-clock the bushings", blah blah.
6.) I did the install over two months ago and I've put well over 1,000 miles on the car. Just re-checked the ride height measurements, no change.

Like I said, any helpful input is appreciated. I am not a happy camper.

Some springs have had issues. By you only giving half the info. we can only give you half the help. :doh:

 

[HappySquirrel]

Some springs have had issues. By you only giving half the info. we can only give you half the help. :doh:

Well, I haven't read about known issues with any particular springs on 6G. If you're aware of issues with particular sets of springs, how about I PM you which ones they are?

 

[CrazedAntelope]

Ouch....

Our non EB springs look better on an EB than that.

Sorry to see you guys go through this.

I got the stance reasonably dialed for an extra $340 ($60 for the spring pads + hole saw, $280 for the BC racing stuff) on top of what I paid for the springs.

Oh well, on to bigger and better things... Ordering my JRZ RS Pro's this month.

FWIW my BMR CB005 and end links have held up & performed awesome on track & the skidpad. I'll definitely be going to BMR over the competitor to finish up my rear suspension.

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