LE Dyno Days

[Paul]

as am i my friends, but there is still hope, maybe a key with the LE owners manuals haha

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[sandbagger]

This is just what I was afraid of fingers are crossed that there a track key or really out there a supercharger at what ford pays no markup lol I know I'm dreaming

 

[MKW]

Well we can hope, but i am going to have to lean to the reality that they are the same computer. The different numbers just give them the excuse to say "its an LE and a different computer" thus being able to get away with charging the LE owners more money for the same part

I think my car is great but I do agree with Paul. Charging us LE owners more money for the same parts. :ford:

 

[Mustangchief]

Not quite getting the negative nanny vibe. Those numbers are on the side of a few strong GTs, there are always strong motors. 380 on the first pull is 450 at the crank, a birdie told me that was the number to look for. If you were thinking more, well you were dreaming. Most GTs with a few exceptions are only getting 360-369ish at the wheels.

The SAE .96 is the correction factor used to calculate against reference atmospheric conditions. You can get some power loss or gains based on atmospheric conditions. It may be why the next two pulls were lower. A denser air mass may have been moving through. If everything was a constant all of the time, then Dyno numbers mean a lot. Not all dynos will use the correction factors, it depends on the shop. Also, without the meteorological conditions perfect the build where you are running, the correction factor could be off as well. Getting the conditions from the closest weather station is like ...well buying red lipstick for the wife but getting the wrong shade (for you Husker)

 

[Todd15Fastback]

Not quite getting the negative nanny vibe. Those numbers are on the side of a few strong GTs, there are always strong motors. 380 on the first pull is 450 at the crank, a birdie told me that was the number to look for. If you were thinking more, well you were dreaming. Most GTs with a few exceptions are only getting 360-369ish at the wheels.

The SAE .96 is the correction factor used to calculate against reference atmospheric conditions. You can get some power loss or gains based on atmospheric conditions. It may be why the next two pulls were lower. A denser air mass may have been moving through. If everything was a constant all of the time, then Dyno numbers mean a lot. Not all dynos will use the correction factors, it depends on the shop. Also, without the meteorological conditions perfect the build where you are running, the correction factor could be off as well. Getting the conditions from the closest weather station is like ...well buying red lipstick for the wife but getting the wrong shade (for you Husker)

Have you seen how many GT's are laying down 385-395 RWHP so far? I bet we have 10-15 cars on this board alone that have put down those numbers as a comparison.

 

[Paul]

yes we were just being hopeful that ford did something a little different to set them apart, more than just cosmetic

The numbers also depend on the type of dyno and if they are using the highest numbers or the average over a few pulls. Looks to me like the LE's are the same (no LE bonus haha)

 

[y2ksilverbullit]

Out of curiosity, what gear did they do the pulls in?

 

[Paul]

Out of curiosity, what gear did they do the pulls in?

They were in 5th. sorry forgot to put that. Ill change it

 

[JimmyTwoTimes]

Well this might be a little longer than usual from me, but I will just come out and say it :tsk: appears NOTHING is different :( and i am rather disappointed Maybe there is still a chance for a Red key Black key thing lol. Any who here is what the devil did

12-18-14
93 Oct
55.43 degrees at 29.74in-hg and 37% humidity SAE.96 (not sure what that means lol)

Run 1: 380.74hp/345.06tq
Rund 2: 370.51hp/351.94tq
Round 3: 371.1hp/351.8tq


The over all profile was just like all the others i have been seeing on here. strong run up to 5g and then the computer drops off the fuel. From what i saw it appears that the tuning is the same as the base line GT's, so the run of the mill flash tuners should not mess up anything (assuming there are no hidden keys or secrets we have yet to discover)

looking forward to see if the rest of y'all have the same out come.

For got to add that the car was in trac mode, not sure if that would make a difference or not

That's pretty cool that at 2500 rpm it's already making almost 300 lb/ft at the wheels.

 

[Mustangchief]

I think my car is great but I do agree with Paul. Charging us LE owners more money for the same parts. :ford:

If you followed the LE from the beginning, it was never advertised to be a performance animal over the GT. The GT350 and 500 will be those. What the LE was meant to be was a top of the line GT with a small edge over the GT to differentiate it, 10 cent parts instead of 9 cent parts. It was built for Mustang aficionados, "the more money for the same parts" is very untrue. The "little extras" production costs are significantly more than mass production parts. The price point you pay is higher just because of the limited availability. If you are the bean counters, you cringed at some of the costs. I doubt they lost money, but their margin was very thin on the LE compared to a base Mustang. Sure you can get a GT cheaper with most of the same parts, if all you wanted was the GT performance, you bought the wrong car.

 

[MKW]

If you followed the LE from the beginning, it was never advertised to be a performance animal over the GT. The GT350 and 500 will be those. What the LE was meant to be was a top of the line GT with a small edge over the GT to differentiate it, 10 cent parts instead of 9 cent parts. It was built for Mustang aficionados, "the more money for the same parts" is very untrue. The "little extras" production costs are significantly more than mass production parts. The price point you pay is higher just because of the limited availability. If you are the bean counters, you cringed at some of the costs. I doubt they lost money, but their margin was very thin on the LE compared to a base Mustang. Sure you can get a GT cheaper with most of the same parts, if all you wanted was the GT performance, you bought the wrong car.

Do not get me wrong...I bought the LE because that is what I wanted. It will stay stock. I'm not into racing it or etc... I like Kona Blue and the fact that they are numbered. To me it's a big difference between the LE Mustang's and regular Mustang's. :ford:

 

[Todd15Fastback]

That's pretty cool that at 2500 rpm it's already making almost 300 lb/ft at the wheels.

Yep. A very usable powerband.

 

[Paul]

yeah the TQ come on right away, especially power shifting into 2nd gear. gives you a great view of the ditch LOL

 

[Todd15Fastback]

yeah the TQ come on right away, especially power shifting into 2nd gear. gives you a great view of the ditch LOL

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

 

[Mustangchief]

Have you seen how many GT's are laying down 385-395 RWHP so far? I bet we have 10-15 cars on this board alone that have put down those numbers as a comparison.

Yes I have, they are very strong motors, folks with less, should be looking at things like connections and filters. Plus you have to take into account the dyno machines, emissions, operators, conditions and so on. To get a really good representative sample, you need to bring all of those GTs to the same location and run them on the same day. Looking at just the HP and TQ numbers alone is a common fallacy among Cam Heads.

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