GT350 vs. Z/28

[Cmycobrafly]

Base curb weight is with no options period!!! That has nothing to do with epa test numbers!!! Ford advertised weight based on component weight there might be a few pounds different then one weighed but a standard mustang gt with full tank of gas is not under 3700 pounds!!! Period screw EU weight standards!! Go weigh and base m6 car find out for urselfs!! Yes if u opt for the optional recaro seats it will be slightly less!!!

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[thePill]

Considering how CAFE standards work, I can buy into this. Because GM sells more trucks and SUVs their CAFE rating would be lower than Honda, who doesn't sell many trucks or SUVs. Percentage of each model sold factors into CAFE standards, it wouldn't be a shocker to hear that it also plays a role in curb weight, especially since weight greatly affects MPG. I'm not saying its true, I don't know. But its certainly not outlandish if that ended up being the case.

A Ford Rep talked to a member here about the spare tire option. The Rep said that the Spare tire brought the fuel economy down. It means they even considered making the spare standard at one time. It would have been about 60lbs including the jack.

Emissions and Fuel Economy needs an established weight to test from. A vehicle’s weight has a direct effect on fuel consumption. Lowering fuel consumption delivers a reduction in carbon emissions or, the overall Carbon Footprint of a vehicle.

Out of the models produced, they are broken down into separate categories for test. Everything that has a different engine, transmission and body style needs a weight, emissions and fuel economy certification.

Someday other factors will dictate those numbers. I know convertibles get away with some things but the coupe/sedan/wagon all fall victim. Convertibles are also exempt from a roll-over test and it has no effect on the overall rating. I think the overall rating should reflect the dangers of a soft top don't you think?

 

[thePill]

Base curb weight is with no options period!!! That has nothing to do with epa test numbers!!! Ford advertised weight based on component weight there might be a few pounds different then one weighed but a standard mustang gt with full tank of gas is not under 3700 pounds!!! Period screw EU weight standards!! Go weigh and base m6 car find out for urselfs!! Yes if u opt for the optional recaro seats it will be slightly less!!!

We have weighed a base GT, it was under 3700lbs...

3587lbs with a 1/4 tank of fuel and no washer fluid...

 

[Cmycobrafly]

So once again u weighed one car and with a full tank of gas and washer fluid it would weighed 3650-3660 every car varries slightly even with current practices! You drained the washer fluid and weighed it with floor mats??? Probley not if u weigh a car and it is with in 30 pounds of what is advertised they r not lying or giving u some 33 percent option bull crap!!! 3704 pounds once again no matter how you spin it keep talking!!!

 

[thePill]

So once again u weighed one car and with a full tank of gas and washer fluid it would weighed 3650-3660 every car varries slightly even with current practices! You drained the washer fluid and weighed it with floor mats??? Probley not if u weigh a car and it is with in 30 pounds of what is advertised they r not lying or giving u some 33 percent option bull crap!!! 3704 pounds once again no matter how you spin it keep talking!!!

What about the guy on here with a automatic GT in standard seats? It weighed 3705lbs. The automatic is 25-35lbs heavier than the manual. That is 3670-3680lbs right there...

Is it so hard to accept that there are probably 3670lbs GT's out there? Even worse, one that is a little light from the factory... or one that has Recaro's (GASP!!!)... or one that is running a 1/4 tank?

If a Fully Loaded, Premium GTPP just ran 2 seconds faster than a Boss 302 @ 3814lbs, just think what a 3570lbs GT would do.

Don't quote me on this but, that S550 had over 100lbs of airbag equipment onboard. That is over twice the weight of the S197's airbag removal program. That compensates the cage right there...

Someone said 87lbs of sound deadening (including trunk and hood but not firewall). That is also almost double than the S197's...

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[Cmycobrafly]

You keep factoring this stuff in fords but play devils advocate! Figure you magic math on a new trailer park car!

 

[Cmycobrafly]

The records don't save that much weight over base gt seats Ur deducting that weight different from premium seats and applying it to the base gt there Is not a 75 pound different on base seats and recaros!

 

[thePill]

Besides...

Ford used the curb weight of the 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013 and 2014 GT's with the Brembo Pack, Performance Pack and Track Packs equipped RIGHT???

3605-3670 is what a previous packaged GT was tested at numerous times. What makes you think that changed? Especially since we have a few GTPP's on here between 3720-3740 right now. One Auto GT at 3705...

It seems to me that the 3705lbs Ford reported consist of something or other if we are seeing real world numbers that don't add up. The weight gain from the 14" to 15" rotors alone is 22lbs... notgonnahappen.com

That means the Performance Pack this year adds over 60lbs for sure, the 2011 Brembo Package added 60lbs alone. This year I am positive it is more. What would happen to the curb weight if one of those guys (that actually weighed their own car) deleted a 60-80lbs Performance Package?

Could we subtract 60lbs from 3744lbs? That is 3684lbs in a pretty reasonable worst case scenario. What about the guy that weighed his at 3722lbs and if 80lbs were to be deleted in the package?

OH NO!!! That is 3642lbs!!! Please Don't have Recaro's!! Please be a full tank of gas!!

Recaro's are another 10lbs total... 50 Miles to E is another 72lbs.

OH NO!!! 3560lbs!!!

Edit: Just a weight check real quick
Front Rotors: 22lbs
Rear Rotors: 8lbs
Cooler: 13,16 or 19lbs
Larger Rad: 5lbs
Calipers: 14lbs for all four
Wheels and Tires: 8lbs a piece for front/Can't remember the rear. Just say 35lbs.

That is almost 100lbs... Some of those weights are from the weight saving thread here. everyone here witnessed at least the 3744lbs GTPP for sure... Why is it hard to believe that the Mustang GT won't get lighter without the Performance Package?

 

[Cmycobrafly]

Also that guy who weighed his car with auto was like 3/4 tank of gas I believe!

 

[Cmycobrafly]

That 3704 weight is a base weight accept it!!? Stop spinning it!! It does not have track pack included

 

[Cmycobrafly]

Holy only so the 2015 mustang gt premium trackpack with recoro seats weighed 3814 per motor trend!!? So without recoro sears according to ur math that is a 3950 pound car!!! Fat pig!!

 

[Cmycobrafly]

That is the article comparing it to 1le and challenger!!! Yep it had recoro seats Iam sure the that took away 150 pounds from regular premium seats cooled and heated in all that is what u have said in past like a 6 months ago

 

[Cmycobrafly]

According to my math and everybody else's and that motor trend article a base car would weigh right around 3700 pounds beings a premium track pack premium with recoro sears weighed 3814!!!!!!

 

[thePill]

No, the Performance Package is very, very heavy this year. That Mustang had every stand alone option, it was a Premium (12 Speaker) and it was a Performance Package.

The Performance Package is around 90lbs. The Premium is 45-60lbs (9 and 12 Speaker) and the option list weight is unknown. The Recaro's only save about 10lbs vs. the Standard Seats but the Premium Leather weighs over 70lbs per seat, the Recaro's weigh about 45lbs (Standard Seats weigh 50lbs).

I am sorry, it just doesn't add up.

A guy on here had a GTPP manual that weighed 3744lbs. If you delete the Performance Package, it will not weigh 3705lbs nor 3700 flat. It would be about 90lbs lighter than what he weighed it at (3744lbs).

There is actually no way to get around that... 90lbs is actually reasonable since the Corvette's Z51 weighs 150lbs. I don't know what you get in the Z51 though (Can someone enlighten me on the Z51?).

 

[S550guy]

There is actually no way to get around that... 90lbs is actually reasonable since the Corvette's Z51 weighs 150lbs. I don't know what you get in the Z51 though (Can someone enlighten me on the Z51?).

Here, settle down and read:

http://www.chevrolet.com/corvette-stingray/specs/trims.html

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