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He said if you change hardware the ECU needs to be tunned, intake, headers etc.Coming from BMW's that was cool to watch. Interesting though that now BMW is headed towards all-turbo, he states there's no point chipping NA cars, when in the 90's Dinan was THE go-to for NA performance tunes.
The Dinan tunes the make real power are for FI. Even the FP tunes are modest and most require additional hardware. Dinana tunes for my audi's are also conservative compared to APR. Can you make more power from a tune? I think so. But N/A motor yields small gains. Upgrading hardware and tunning for said hardware, that's the ticket.Funny as Dinan sold for years (and continues to sell) tunes for BMW N/A engines. Now the claims on a tune alone are very modest (~10 bhp on 400+ bhp N/A M3) which are probably more realistic compared to what other tuners are claiming. Will an N/A tune help reduce track times? Probably not!
That's silly. Lots of people value retaining their warranty but still want to mod cars. E90 335i with Dinan tune, oil cooler, and charge pipe, stock exhaust, and good dampers on BFG R1s can run sub-1:42 at Mid-Ohio in the hands of a good driver. That is really damn fast for a family sedan. Can you go faster with a GIAC or Cobb or JB4 tune? Sure, yes, but they aren't that much cheaper and for people with newer cars, you lose the safety net of the warranty.Dinan is like that Canadian winter coat brand that costs $1000+ (forgot what its called) or $5,000 bags some people buy, they charge an arm and a leg for something that is not worth it. Its all perception and only rich/ignorant (of reality) buy their products.
It does. First of all the warranty you speak of is only for 2 years and in practice becomes a nightmare to prove to Dinan that BMW denied the warranty because of them. You become a mediator between Dinan and BMW. Does it sort itself out eventually? Probably, is it a pleasant experience? No. I have 2 GM friends as well as countless SAs and CAs across the country in the BMW world. Every one of them shares the same view.That's silly. Lots of people value retaining their warranty but still want to mod cars. E90 335i with Dinan tune, oil cooler, and charge pipe, stock exhaust, and good dampers on BFG R1s can run sub-1:42 at Mid-Ohio in the hands of a good driver. That is really damn fast for a family sedan. Can you go faster with a GIAC or Cobb or JB4 tune? Sure, yes, but they aren't that much cheaper and for people with newer cars, you lose the safety net of the warranty.
Just because one business takes a conservative approach and has a different value proposition doesn't make the customers idiots.