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This is a detailed explanation on Single vs. Twin Catch Cans
UPR has sold thousands of Twin Catch Can setups for the Ecoboost platform and results have always been repeatable. The larger 3.5L Ecoboost Twin Turbo has a much heavier demand on the PCV system venting from the crankcase than the 2.3L Ecoboost Single Turbo. The 3.5L engine has the old PCV design for the dirty and clean side oil lines and is a lot more susceptible to blowing oil out the clean side
Even the heavily modified 3.5L Twin Turbo setups never really see any real oil travel and are more for overall protection some customers want or they just like the way the system looks. On top of it this coming from a business owner who offers the very best catch cans in the industry and this statement will lose sales.
I would rather UPR promoted products based on actual need and real world results. We have become one of the most well-known manufacturers in the Ecoboost world because of the results and support we give. Now combine that with hundreds of hours of testing and multiple customer tests that always return the same results.
If you guys really want a Twin Catch Can system that is fine. But the importance of the Dual Valve Catch Can Setup is to help the system maintain the in on the clean side and the out to from the dirty side. The WOT line on the is what helps the engine keep a directional flow and under WOT without a Dual Valve you will push very small amounts of oil out the clean side.
WOT evacuation from the Dual Valve is Vital to Eliminate the need for Twin Catch Cans. When in boost the first valve closes and prevents the catch can from being pressurized. Then the second valve goes to work and the WOT line pulls a higher vacuum from the Turbo inlet so you're properly evacuating the crankcase and not pressurizing it like traditional catch cans.
Sorry this is so long, but it's very important to understand the PCV system is designed with an In / Clean Side and an Exit / Dirty Side. It's more important to improve the function and maintain the directional flow VS. just slapping two cans on it. Even more important is Twin Catch Cans do absolutely nothing for the engine performance while in boost or improve performance.
Twin Catch Cans allow the crankcase to build up excessive positive pressure and that is why oil comes out both sides.
I am always glad to share our findings and what we see work the best without allowing profit to sway our decision or what we promote. We make a lot more profit on a Twin Catch Can Setup than we do on a Dual Valve Catch Can Setup because of how complex the actual function is VS. having a simple design with a basic screen or $1.00 sintered bronze filter / muffler.
We have the largest variety of catch cans applications and different designs in the industry. Everyone else just rubber stamps one or two basic designs and makes a few brackets and sells the same package for different vehicles. For UPR there is more about what we do than the bottom line.
:cheers:
UPR has sold thousands of Twin Catch Can setups for the Ecoboost platform and results have always been repeatable. The larger 3.5L Ecoboost Twin Turbo has a much heavier demand on the PCV system venting from the crankcase than the 2.3L Ecoboost Single Turbo. The 3.5L engine has the old PCV design for the dirty and clean side oil lines and is a lot more susceptible to blowing oil out the clean side
Even the heavily modified 3.5L Twin Turbo setups never really see any real oil travel and are more for overall protection some customers want or they just like the way the system looks. On top of it this coming from a business owner who offers the very best catch cans in the industry and this statement will lose sales.
I would rather UPR promoted products based on actual need and real world results. We have become one of the most well-known manufacturers in the Ecoboost world because of the results and support we give. Now combine that with hundreds of hours of testing and multiple customer tests that always return the same results.
If you guys really want a Twin Catch Can system that is fine. But the importance of the Dual Valve Catch Can Setup is to help the system maintain the in on the clean side and the out to from the dirty side. The WOT line on the is what helps the engine keep a directional flow and under WOT without a Dual Valve you will push very small amounts of oil out the clean side.
WOT evacuation from the Dual Valve is Vital to Eliminate the need for Twin Catch Cans. When in boost the first valve closes and prevents the catch can from being pressurized. Then the second valve goes to work and the WOT line pulls a higher vacuum from the Turbo inlet so you're properly evacuating the crankcase and not pressurizing it like traditional catch cans.
Sorry this is so long, but it's very important to understand the PCV system is designed with an In / Clean Side and an Exit / Dirty Side. It's more important to improve the function and maintain the directional flow VS. just slapping two cans on it. Even more important is Twin Catch Cans do absolutely nothing for the engine performance while in boost or improve performance.
Twin Catch Cans allow the crankcase to build up excessive positive pressure and that is why oil comes out both sides.
I am always glad to share our findings and what we see work the best without allowing profit to sway our decision or what we promote. We make a lot more profit on a Twin Catch Can Setup than we do on a Dual Valve Catch Can Setup because of how complex the actual function is VS. having a simple design with a basic screen or $1.00 sintered bronze filter / muffler.
We have the largest variety of catch cans applications and different designs in the industry. Everyone else just rubber stamps one or two basic designs and makes a few brackets and sells the same package for different vehicles. For UPR there is more about what we do than the bottom line.
:cheers:
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