lots of details:
https://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23384&highlight=cooled+seats
Basically this: Ford morons re-used the seat climate control units from Fusion (one for the seat bottom cushion and one for the seatback). But 4-door fusion has underseat AC ducts that keep the area...
Two hard truths:
1) These seats can NEVER be made to work. The basic design was intended for use in a sedan with underseat AC ducts that would cool the thermoelectric devices (TED). A complete redesign would be needed to make a seat that could function drawing ambient air alone. In addition...
Actually, just running the seat back, too might help as would being able to change the balance (e.g., run the bottom at a 1 and the back at a 3).
This may work to the extent that heat from the hot side of the bottom unit is unintentionally heating the cool side of the seatback unit. The...
Call me skeptical...
I'm skeptical. The seats are very sensitive to initial temperature and ambient temperature (not the same thing when you consider a parked car soaking in sunlight on a 90F day will be at an initial temperature of well over 130F).
Even in Los Angeles, it has not been...
The big issue was what was the temperature of the TED at the beginning.
The car was presumably at a relatively low temperature overnight. The TED's were probably below 70F when you turned the car on. Contrast this with perhaps 130F getting into a car that's been out in the sun midday.
I agree that the ducts may have a low impact in the F-150. That does not make them irrelevant to the diagnosis of the design defect.
Again, I turn to the Fusion (and perhaps Taurus).
What other than the underseat duct and the space between the front seat back and rear seat bottom would...
I approached the problem from the baseline of the Fusion. Its seats are less functional than other cooled seats (such as my 2007 Lexus IS350 which the Mustang replaced), but people do not seem to be complaining. The Fusion uses the same seat climate control unit.
The issue you raise confuses...
I am talking about the conventional underseat ducts to provide AC (or heat) for rear passengers. Unless I am mistaken, they discharge right below the intake for the TED.
I am right now driving a loaner Fusion and, with the driver's seat all the way back, the underseat ducts discharge air only...
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F-150 has underseat AC ducts that presumably help cool the intake air to the TED. How is an F-150 solution to work in a mustang that has no underseat AC ducts?
From the factory, the trunk lid was very badly aligned. the right rear was proud about 0.125 inch.
The dealer adjusted that last year to make it more even.
The interference is on the left.
It definitely looked like someone took a coarse file to the left edge of the plastic on the lid...
At least with automatics, the 2015 base EB has a 3.15 axle ratio; 3.31 is standard with EB Premium; 3.55 with PP.
To start with, 3.15 is not a particularly fuel-sipping number. Contrast that with 2.73 from the 2014 Mustang.
I assume you have the base EB. At your speed, my auto premium...
There are at least two more big differences.
F-150 Cooled seats were not available on the standard cab. Thus, they only are on vehicles that had underseat AC and had plenty of space behind the seat (whereas my driver's seat touches the rear seat bottom and prevents upward airflow).
Of...
Actually, not well.
The seat bottom heats much more than the seat back. After shoveling the car out in the winter, I really would prefer my back being warmed to my balls being fried.
But it did not work the day he got it.
The problem is it can trick you. If you get in the car and it's been soaking at at 60F or below, you can turn on the cooled seats and it will instantly give you a blast of cold air.
If it's been soaking at 100F+, you may get some moderate cooling of...
It depends on how you define the problem. The same units work fine in the Fusion. Presumably, the precooling from the underseat ducts in the Fusion overcomes the problems of hot air trapping.
I also suspect that the seat bottom TED ends up preheating the intake air for the seat back TED, but...