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Not sure it is American arrogance due to someone else doing something first. It is a fool's errand to think that going to EV's will save the planet. Why waste your time on the little fish that will get caught on its own and dismiss the whales that are going to net you much bigger gains. I am all...

In the US, residential cars (including SUV's and pickups) account for about 14%. So even if you remove that 14% with all EV's you still will have a problem...yes? The reason cars are the big thing is that there is money to be made. In almost every other major area that produces CO2, there is...

Wow the last time I think I heard or saw "Ad Hominem" used was on an episode of Matlock!

Don't think anyone is saying it is not "happening there" as it is happening to some degree everywhere. To say it is the right thing to do is something else entirely. Also, if it was so great the the people of Norway were all for it, why is it only 54% of new car sales? Why isn't 90% or higher...

What exactly is the benefit to the population to mandate EV's? The examples you cite actually kill people. Some on contact. How exactly is an EV saving you?

Agreed. This is not the same everywhere in the world. At least in the US at this moment, a person has the choice. We are a country of laws, so this can change with new laws, but if most people do not want to adhere to said laws they can be discarded or amended. Also to put a law in place that...

I think it may be possible for a few EU countries. The ones that are a bit more lax on the democratic process and allowing people to choose what they want vs what they are told to do. I agree, all of the EU will struggle with it. I think 2040 is more realistic. Of course this does not cover...

I agree with you. Look at how many Accords and Camry's are out there. They are all about just getting there safe and sound. Those folks generally care about cheap and plain. EV's though are not cheap, but they are plain. Once the cost for a Accord type car is in the 20 something thousand, you...

You do know that Norway has a tiny population and it is cold there most of the time right? The state of New Jersey where I live has nearly double the population in a much smaller area. I cannot imagine the power grid holding up with more than 15% of cars using electricity every day especially in...

I have been watching this thread for a while and I have found many things stated rather funny. Just want to provide my opinions on EV's vs ICE before I respond to some posts. In my heart I know that an ICE vehicle is destined for used cars only. It will come sooner than it really needs to, but...

Agreed on the configurator not being quite right yet. I will say that if the color used on the site for velocity blue was real (that color is really grabber blue) I would have had my deposit down for a Mach 1. Velocity Blue is nice, however I want a grabber blue. Maybe 2022 model?

Holy crap! I am away from the forums for a few months and this and a couple other threads is the best you can come up with? Looking at a few of these threads objectively, they seem like a bunch of 4th graders arguing about who is going to get the milk from the cafe for snack time! LOL Happy...

Yes, agreed, I was just commenting on what Shogun mentioned.

You are kidding yourself if you think banning ICE cars in 10-15 years or the availability of gas is much different at that point as it is now. It will take at least another 10 to 20 years after any bans like CA's go into effect before gas becomes very difficult or illegal to buy/use. There will...

Not sure why you think everyone's value proposition is the same. i see no problem with the sticker cost of the Mach 1 fully loaded. Ford is in the business to make money. Yes, they will attempt to do this at the expense of the buyer using whatever they feel they need to do. They will try to...

Nothing wrong with liking fake sound affects.....you hear them in movies and TV shows all the time. Not my thing though. If I ever buy an EV, I will just let sound as is. i will always have something else that I can drive to hear real sounds :cool:

You will need this device to find it. On the bright side you can also find some ghosts with it too! :like: Seriously though, it is probably hiding under the seats as someone else mentioned or maybe under the trunk liner. You will find it eventually...good luck!

. I think I saw this episode on a sitcom in the 80's....can't quite remember which one it was...thanks for bringing back the memories though. If you know which sitcom/episode it was let me know so I can find and re-watch it!!

LOL....mine just hides in the garage with its headlights closed! :blush:

Pretty sure good quality (304 I think is good quality and common) stainless won't rust due to heat. Most common causes for stainless to rust is, poor quality, incompatible metals used with stainless, certain corrosive cleaners etc. It is really hard to find quality stainless that has rusted due...