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Funny how Google won't pull up anything regarding that weight, and Google pretty much indexes the Internet. Be honest and factual for once.

Why do you keep on avoiding simple questions? Are you full of it? I'm just asking you to show proof of said weight and you can't or won't do it. Show a link. An ATS coupe does not come with a 2.5 in any trim..so no, the 2.5 has nothing to do with the curb weight. I've done more research than...

Can you link the article with the 3,479 weight you keep bringing up?

Grabber blue is what I'd want as well.

Would be neat to see Honda put out an AWD Civic.. Even though most of us here wouldn't shop in the segment. Bet they'd do a great job if the bean counters would step back.

At what point does a shorter wheelbase reduce the ride quality noticeably? Most of us will spend our time driving these cars out on the roads for fun and half a second on a track won't make any difference to us.

Where did you see that? I just saw some crazies listening to the acceleration audio and thinking that's the 1/4 and going by that. I wouldn't look much into that, but it'll probably be a mid 12 second car.

I'd say 6th gen coming probably impacts sales a bit and the car is also now old.. What's also impacting it is that the Mustang is brand new and people will flock to it more. There was no fresh pony car competitor for the Mustang when it was a 2014 model for people to run to. Good sales out...

Be exciting to see what Ford has in store for the next Gt500.

No, that's not according to Caddy site.. I keep on talking about the coupe. I've been mentioning the coupe. You're looking up standard parts for the sedan.. ATS coupe comes with Brembo brakes standard and 18s.

Nice April 1st article.

The ATS coupw comes with 18s... You just don't get it. No point trying to discuss anything with you in a civil matter as you just go on your little tantrums and Apple to horses comparisons.

I don't even give a shit what it weighs. I just think it'll be funny when you have an egg on your face with weight predictions and you start back pedaling and changing your story once again. You'll just go to bashing it for other reasons.

You have reading comprehension issues. Where did I say that the 2.0 awd is a low 3400 pound car? Let me help you.. Nowhere! The 4 cylinder with rwd starts in the low 3400 range.

If we took what you say about GM cars, we'd have to say the Mustang GT is a 3,850 pound car.. It's not. It's a 3,700 pound car that can be loaded up to 3,850. You need to compare things equally across the board.

So, you want to go by Ford curb weights but want to go by what the GM cars are weighed out in the field. There are no 17s on the coupe so it has nothing to do with the weight. Well, take what you read below. The ATS 2.0 in premium trim with AWD weighed in at 3,570 pounds.. That's only 40...

Except the coupe 2.0 curb weight is 3,411 pounds.. That's with 18 inch wheels. That's with 4 piston Brembo brakes in the front. Not 17s.. Rear backup camera. 9 speaker Bose. I don't know where you get your information. Just be factual dude.

I feel it's better wait and get what you truly want. If you settle, it'll bite you in the ass most of the time.

It'll be a lot of car for 53k. I wish it were available in grabber blue.

GT PP and Z51 Vette are not 200 pounds apart. Try 300, if not more. Again, look at curb weights. Base Vette to base GT is a 400+ pound difference.