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  1. Cadillac ATS Coupe vs Mustang Ecoboost

    If the 600hp+ Ford GT winds up being a TT V6, I will just dismiss it. :headbonk:
  2. Cadillac ATS Coupe vs Mustang Ecoboost

    Why is Magneride reserved for higher trim levels and halo cars? Surely it's not THAT expensive. In a sports car I'd rather have that than fancy wheels, a sunroof, etc etc.
  3. 15 gt pp vs. 15 camaro

    Riiiiight because Ford's never borrowed money from the gov't. GM seems determined to stay away from competing in straight line times on the Camaro. The magnaride feature on the ZL1 wasn't exactly at the top of anyone's shopping list. They built the z/28 as the "ultimate" Camaro and...
  4. GT350 vs. Z/28

    This had better be faster around the track than the z/28. I still haven't gotten my head around the outgoing 1LE beating the new GT. Throw the budget out the window and get it done right this time.
  5. December 2014 Mustang Sales (and vs. Camaro & Challenger)

    Because no one here has used the same excuse. From the spy photos I've seen it doesn't look like GM's taking any chances with the '16 Camaro styling. So Camaro fans don't have anything new to look forward to in the looks department. Performance numbers vs. the competition only matter to a...
  6. 2015 Mustang GT PP vs. 2015 Chevrolet Camaro SS 1LE

    While you're waiting, track down Randy's test drive video of the camaro ss when it first came out. Here's a quote from it: "I couldn't wait to get out of that thing!" Chevy put style over substance and from the day it launched to the present day, it worked from a business standpoint. The...
  7. S550 Roush Mustang

    I could live with that. :)
  8. EcoBoost or EcoBust?

    Newer cars get good enough mileage...I don't think this is necessary. It would be a nice option in other cars in Ford's lineup though.
  9. Do the Reviews Disappoint or Excite you?

    I think in this case Ford relied too heavily on the brand name and customer loyalty...Mustang buyers want performance and muscle car styling. I never thought turning the Mustang into a Fusion Sport Coupe was a good idea. But seriously. A few styling tweaks and engine tunes can get this thing...
  10. August 2014 Mustang Sales (and vs. Camaro & Challenger)

    It's a buyer's market right now if you just want V8 power...I drive by a GM dealer on the way to work and they've always got a used Mustang out front. Personally, the styling and weight gain on the '15 does nothing for me. The conservative power output doesn't help. A smart buyer would...
  11. Is anybody at least thinking about the next gen Camaro?

    I'm really underwhelmed by the styling of the new 'Stang and the HP/weight numbers were a major letdown. So yeah I'm interested in what the next Camaro will be. It's one of the few cars out there that absolutely doesn't look like anything else on the road. It really all depends on if Chevy is...
  12. July 2014 Mustang Sales (and vs. Camaro & Challenger)

    Don't you think it's a little late in the game to keep using that as an excuse? My problem with the current Camaro is it looks more exotic than it really is. It stands out on the street but it's power-weight performance doesn't cut it. The only way to do it right with a Camaro is to buy a zl1...
  13. 2015 Mustang versus next 6th gen Camaro

    Look at the current Stingray and the recent transformation of the Cadillac brand if you want to get an idea of where GM's performance division is going with the '16 Camaro. How much of that trickles down to the V6 trim(that most people will buy) remains to be seen.
  14. 2015 Mustang Horsepower / Torque Figures and Weight Released!

    http://www.caranddriver.com/news/2016-chevrolet-camaro-first-spy-photos-news After the C7 and the massive revamps to the Cadillac, you had to know they were going to do the same thing with the Camaro. They've done a reasonably good job of wringing performance out of the current model but it's...
  15. June 2014 Mustang Sales (and vs. Camaro & Challenger)

    Actually the "government motors" bit was a major disadvantage. Alot of people were against the auto bailout...especially the kind of people who buy sports cars with a heritage like the Camaro and Mustang. As far as reviews go, have you seen the Randy Probst test drive video? It's the one...
  16. GT350 vs. Z/28

    +1 I think it's funny becaue the guy is obviously obsessed and he doesn't even realize it. Most people can man up and admit defeat, a true nutjob can't do it even when the facts are right in his face.
  17. GT350 vs. Z/28

    This isn't the GM I knew for the past 30 years. Between the Corvette, Cadillac CTS-V and now the Camaro, things have really changed. All this competition just means a better Mustang and more (affordable)fun for us!
  18. GT350 vs. Z/28

    I can't wait to see the Bieber-esque fanboy excuses after tomorrow's Head2Head. Brand loyalty is all well and good but when you can't admit you got beat, you just look stupid.
  19. Camaro folks are noticeably worried....

    No. Camaro outselling the Mustang is definitely the issue. I don't care if they sold 1 more car than the Mustang. Mustangs have MUCH more of a mindshare with the public but yet the Camaro is beating it in sales. Ford whiffed bigtime with the 2015 design. They can(and I guarantee WILL) make...
  20. Camaro folks are noticeably worried....

    Let's be honest here: the Camaro outsold Mustang again last year. Superior drag times and stock performance between the two cars obviously hasn't been enough to push Ford over the top with the buying public. When I saw the 2015 I didn't think Ford threw their strongest punch. I think they sold...





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