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Because of bad GM experiences... they seem way more common than bad Ford experiences. I was neutral - always loved Corvettes and SOME Camaros, but GM lost any sort of neutral opinion I had on American cars when every single vehicle I've owned by them had engine malfunctions and failures. Their...

LOL I bet they honestly think that too :lol:

BUT is there though?!?!?! :p

Nice. I bet that's fun!

Yes that is where the rev limiter is.

I actually agree with what he said. I get that the Ring is a great track to test all the dynamics of the vehicle, but why is it a measure of a car's engineering genius with lap times? So many people put way too much value in a Ring lap time. I simply like stirring the pot... I like pissing...

So in other words: who gives a rat's @$$ about Ring times because their are unofficial "race" times. I actually agree with what the Ford engineer on that. What he said in the interview with Top Gear: "Ring times? Oh man, don't even get me started on this topic," says Hameedi. "These times...

Trust me, that was my goal when shopping for a new exhaust as well. Lighter system with better performance that sounded aggressive and race car-like when I stepped on it and mellow when just cruising. I found the perfect system in the FRPP Touring Cat-Back in Black Chrome :)

Damn... I'll trade you my GT w/PP for that R8 :D

Just noticed this. Either way, I don't see why the Ring would post false times on it's website. Why would they even post anything in the first place if they don't have an official time? Let's be logical here.

Should have gone with the Touring! I am a commuter as well (my GT is my DD) and the Touring Cat-Back is the perfect balance between aggressive and timid. It's tame when you want it to be, but opens up in a non-obnoxious way when you're walking the gears.

https://nurburgringlaptimes.com/lap-times-top-100/ Official Ring website.

Porsche 911 GT 2 or 3... not sure I'd have to check the Ring lap time site. Fast Lane Daily also confirmed that Ford officially released the Ring times. They didn't "lie" like some idiots here want to accuse them of. It is simply the fact that they wanted to WAIT til they released ALL of the...

Ford officially released the Ring times and GT350 and 350R are 2 and 5 second faster than the Z/28 and the GT350R is 1 second faster than the current gen 911 GT. It IS better than the Z/28. :ford:

Don't forget that this car was 5 seconds faster than the current Z/28 and 1 second faster than the currest 911 GT... ummmm that's pretty serious, so get the idiotic hate and disappointment out of here.

Anyone who's not happy with those numbers can just shove it. That's 26 hp and 29 more tq than they predicted (at least 500 hp at least 400 tq). They delivered on their promise of "at least" and you're complaining? Some of you just blow my mind and should probably shut your mouth on automobile...

OOOOO!!! OOOOO!!! Pick ME!!!!

I do now. :thumbsup:

Where in the hell are you getting "non Brembo fronts" from? You have to be some special kind of stupid to think that... 6 piston brembo fronts. Get it right.

Both viable points! Thank you for sharing your experience, VTESAUCE!