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You forgot to add the "freedom of speech" part too.....

Zero sympathy in this scenario. It's not like the EPA is enforcing a brand new law and deciding to retroactively enforce it. You took a calculated risk when you went down this route.

I would do the PP2 over all of those "tunes" you mentioned.

So let me get this straight, you not being able to run around catless is the beginning of the extermination of an entire race?

No complaints, the car was grandfathered in and is no longer manufactured.

I'm actually in agreement with you. I want there to be a legal path but that still retains emissions equipment on a street driven vehicle.

Same here, drove a friend's tesla last week and enjoyed the experience. I'm very interested in a mach-e GT now while still keeping my car & truck.

Why is this political to you? Enforcement of the law (which has been around for decades) ultimately serves the greater good. Running around on public roads with a cat deleted car is a non-starter. So what is your proposal for a reasonable path forward?

Feels like a Q-anon message board in some of these threads.....

Thanks, I'll take a look.

Is it really that difficult to understand the public benefit to you not being allowed to emit as much NOx & CO into the air as you please? Please cite your sources here, because this is NOT the way I understand it. It just won't be a free-for-all anymore with people deleting their cats/dpf/scr...

I've managed to follow the rules and am perfectly happy. Seems like it's all the "catless cowboys" who are pitching a fit. Seriously, we have cars from the factory coming out with 700+ horsepower and options to get you there which are EO compliant. I still remember back when the C5 Zo6 came...

Interesting to see what happens with VMP when literally all of their systems are "off road use only".

I tended to stick w/ OEM+ parts on mine. It's easy to go overboard and look like an autozone exploded all over your car.

If that were the case its unlikely that the predator would've utilized a 9.5:1 compression ratio. There's a lot of evidence in this thread showing that due to the coyote 2 & 3's high compression ratio could lead to early cat failure for a few reasons. 1. Improper COT strategy or leaving it...

It really is too bad that the Variable Compression tech like Nissan has in their VC Turbo engine isn't more mainstream as it seems like it would help solve some of these issues. I just don't forsee an OEM putting in the necessary R&D to do so as ICE's aren't long for this world.....

You and I haven't agreed much in the past, but I agree with you on this. 👍

Interesting, so for as much crap as the Roush/FP cal gets on this site it seems like they knew what they were doing (now the design itself of the gen 3 coyote blower is certainly up for debate).....

Interesting info Mike, I'm wondering what the values are on the FP/Roush cals?