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  1. Confirmed: Mustang GT PP2 Overheats in 3 laps on track

    Obviously the millions of readers/viewers that read the magazines care. Obviously Ford cares, since they provided 2 Ford vehicles free of charge for the C&D to use in their test. But the most important thing is that you did not publicize and warn other potential buyers that the PP2 overheats...
  2. Confirmed: Mustang GT PP2 Overheats in 3 laps on track

    Means that on a 2 mile track it will be roughly 2 seconds faster, but on a 3 mile track it will be roughly 3 seconds faster. Just a way to illustrate the ballpark performance difference on your average track. By way of comparison the PP2 is ~2seconds/mile faster than the PP1.
  3. 2018 Mustang Performance Package Level 2 (PP2) "Tremor Package" Contents Revealed

    Just to complete the public service announcement, the attorneys that are managing the Ford GT350 overheating law suit are interested in hearing from other Performance Package Mustang GT owners facing overheating issues. You may be able to join the GT350 lawsuit as part of the on-going...
  4. Confirmed: Mustang GT PP2 Overheats in 3 laps on track

    Actually, you are confused. The non-R GT350 is a 4-seat coupe with regular street tires that work well on the street. There is nothing in it to suggest "dedicated track car". The PP2, on the other hand, comes from the factory exclusively with Cup 2 tires, that are only suitable for...
  5. 2018 Mustang Performance Package Level 2 (PP2) "Tremor Package" Contents Revealed

    Yep. Just like the GT350 buyers were victims - go read their class action law suit - that is the exact word used "victim". But at least new buyers are now on notice that the PP2 overheats in 3 laps, in the only environment where it's factory tires can be properly used. There - I just laid out...
  6. Confirmed: Mustang GT PP2 Overheats in 3 laps on track

    Sorry. Must people were saying exactly that. But that doesn't matter. The GT350 overheated. Ford fixed it. The Mustang GT PP2 which comes from the factory only with tires suitable exclusively for tracking overheats also. No big deal. Ford can fix it. So long as prospective buyers are aware...
  7. Ford GT vs ZR1 at Virginia International Raceway

    You mean kinda how the Porsche GT3/GT3-RS is developed by/with the Porsche factory racing team? The Ford GT has a completely different aero package, it makes less power and has a lot more cooling/airflow. It is much lighter. Has not of the exhaust crap, has different shocks/tires/springs, etc...
  8. 2018 Mustang Performance Package Level 2 (PP2) "Tremor Package" Contents Revealed

    It's called a public service announcement. It is important for prospective buyers of a car that comes from the factory with tires that can only perform appropriately at a race track that if they attempt to track their cars it will overheat in 3 laps. What you (Blue thunder) call BS, happens to...
  9. Confirmed: Mustang GT PP2 Overheats in 3 laps on track

    Nope. But diff cooler PLUS transmission cooler PLUS oil cooler, properly engineered from the factory are known to work. When I posted many months ago that Ford leaving out the transmission and diff cooler was likely to lead to overheating, there was a chorus of how the Mustang diff/tranny...
  10. Confirmed: Mustang GT PP2 Overheats in 3 laps on track

    Ridiculous comment. Of course if the embarrassment gets loud enough Ford responds. Explain to us why they added coolers to the GT350 for the 1% (to use your figure) of the buyers who plan to go to a track with turns?
  11. Confirmed: Mustang GT PP2 Overheats in 3 laps on track

    Yes they are. Because I lapped on 2 1LEs, same day, same track one with the GY one with Cup2. Cup2 is ~1 sec/mile faster.
  12. Confirmed: Mustang GT PP2 Overheats in 3 laps on track

    And you know that this will solve the problem, how exactly?
  13. Confirmed: Mustang GT PP2 Overheats in 3 laps on track

    LOL A car with Cup 2 tires to "live on the road"!!!!! There is nothing about a Cup 2 tire that is good on the road. They don't work well unless they get to temp. It is impossible to get them to temp on the street without going to jail. They are horrible in the rain. They are unusable on cold...
  14. Confirmed: Mustang GT PP2 Overheats in 3 laps on track

    I don't hate the Mustang. Quite the contrary. I have been trying to buy another Mustang GT ever since I sold mine 2012 Mustang GT 3 and 1/2 years ago. But I track the car 15+ times/year, and I'm not in the mood to go on engineering one-off solutions for overheating. The Mustang GT PP2 would be...
  15. Confirmed: Mustang GT PP2 Overheats in 3 laps on track

    For one, the two times were not on the same day, same conditions. But, if you are going to engineer and install a diff cooler, assuming you can package one in there, and make it reliable, you are: a) Risking your warranty. b) Modifying the car. c) Spending extra money with no guarantee that it...
  16. Confirmed: Mustang GT PP2 Overheats in 3 laps on track

    Re a 7-year old CTS-V overheating. Yes, and 15 years ago the brakes on a street car would disintegrate, tires would be greasy. Technology moves on. And today there are many, many, many cars with performance/track packages that can do 30 min track day session without overheating any component...
  17. Confirmed: Mustang GT PP2 Overheats in 3 laps on track

    Right. It comes with Cup 2 tires, but is not a track car. LOL. Please tell me, under what circumstance does a Cup 2 tire perform better than the MPS4 in the PP1, except on a race track?
  18. Confirmed: Mustang GT PP2 Overheats in 3 laps on track

    Beat it on lap 1, beat is on lap 2, beat it 1/2 way through lap 3, then.....limp, limp, limp, as the 1LE kept on running at full pace for the rest of the session. (there - fixed for you)
  19. Ford GT vs ZR1 at Virginia International Raceway

    I think you are confusing the Ford GT road car with the purpose built race car carrying the Ford GT name. I'm sure you don't think the Toyota Camry from Nascar has anything to do with the Toyota Camry street car. I do not think the LeMans is substantially different than VIR to cause a 6...





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