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What? What were Mustang gt’s going for before this last refresh? High 20s for a car with an MSRP in the mid 30s. Talk about produce, produce, discount, discount. Pricing has been one of the main complaints on here about the Camaro, as well as visibility and looks. Now that ford is charging...

You should actually want the competition to at least stay around. We don’t want to go back to the 2001-2010 years where the Mustang became stagnant with 300hp because it had no competition to push it to be better.

Hah.... what a salty topic I can picture you guys typing really angry at your computers like “ya, we showed those slowmaro guys”:clap2::clap2:

You seem confused on the definition of “base” and “optioned” when it comes to mustangs and camaros. Bluebeastsrt touched on this earlier in the thread. A “base” Camaro 1ss weighs what it does w/ bigger wheels, tires, brakes, coolers, etc. coming standard. So the reason an “optioned” Mustang’s...

This time is the new official 1/4 mile time for the 2018. I knew that 11 second run was done in a mineshaft, downhill, and with a professional driver. Not to mention the non stock tire pressure.

Sounds damn good. Nice to see/hear a nice affordable option that sounds good.

http://www.motortrend.com/news/2016-chevrolet-camaro-ss-rated-at-28-mpg-highway/ The Camaros HAVE run 12.0, with some of their better drivers dipping into the 11s. Although the Camaro isn’t rated at 30 mpg, it is however rated higher than the Mustang in both auto and manual configuration...