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We appreciate the explanation and I am very thankful that you both have decided to share your talents with the rest of us. Now I'm wondering where "upper midwest" is?

My apologies. I have gone back and taken out the word "here" in the sentence related to "Holy Grail". As far as CAFE standards go, I have always known them to be a fleet average, not an individual model standard. It is also based on units sold. So cars like the Fiesta, Focus and Fusion will...

I don't know how much that Mercedes weighs, but it has cylinder deactivation and a 7 speed transmission and it still doesn't get a substantial improvement in fuel economy versus the Mustang. Is it direct injected too? What about aerodynamics? Gear ratio? Doesn't look like the Holy Grail that...

Unfortunately it's the digital age. Social skills disappeared when email became mainstream. :( Infiltration by those who believe that there is no need for politeness is inevitable.

You can be my wingman anytime Cody!:thumbsup: You can have all the short fat chicks with too much makeup and probably won't be upset.

Kind of like trying to sell 'utes here in the US?

How many gears in the transmission?

I think it's more like OHC vs OHV V8 engines. Just different ways to achieve the same goal.

Stripped down versions would be more expensive to produce due to developing the parts needed to eliminate standard features.

Yes, it's a "trick". Just not a very good one yet. Not off from the showroom floor. Think emissions. I didn't know this. Also haven't read anything about it. But maybe that's because neither of those brands have anything I would be interested in. I forgot that it's an "automatic only"...

I guess I will play the devil's advocate. I don't think that by adding all these upgrades together, that you will see the horsepower gains you are claiming. I think the returns will diminish with each additional modification.

I see Saturn SL in the rims.

It's been around for over a decade by GM and Chrysler, yet the corresponding vehicles get within a mile per gallon or two at most from non-MDS equipped vehicles. Pure hype at this point, even a decade later. Will it get better? I think so, but Ford will take a different approach.

You won't see it from Ford I believe. This is just my opinion, but why would Ford want to look like they are copying GM and Chrysler for what has been mostly a marketing hype?

Fixt it for you.

This has the same amount of buttons as our Escape Titanium. Not a big deal. Maybe it hides some slight styling changes or Gold color for the 50th? I have never noticed the middle vents of any car making that huge of a difference anyways.

If you guys would take the time to read the posts above, you would know that Chazcron has said numerous times that the headlight buckets are his design and that he isn't very good at it.(His words)

Thanks for your 2 cents.:thumbsup: I think it would be great if the 5.4 or 5.8 fit. It would save development monies for other advancements.

I'm not so sure about the space above the motor being usable since it has to be Euro pedestrian compliant too. As far as "doubting Ford would do that to themselves," I disagree. Ford is planning for the future, not living in the past. To design a chassis around a motor that has extremely limited...

Yeah, it's settled alright. Can you show me where Steve also measured a Coyote 5.0 using the same points to measure from? Your desire to be right about the 5.4 fitting, is leading to a certain amount of bullish attitude. Even if it were to fit by massaging all sorts of parts, it isn't going to...