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And yet you plan an ADM for this car.

I don't know what dealer you are at. I asked Titus-will or order one for me at MSRP. Answer was NO. I contacted every dealer from Olympia to Everett that had a car that was not triple black and every single one of the had an ADM, the lowest was $5K. I don't know who the GSM's were. Buddy with...

I've read several times now that it will be 5,000 per year.

Chrysler must get it. ADM's cost you sales in the long run.

Brian, I am not singling you out. I am a life long car guy and run in those circles. Buyers hate ADM's. They stay pissed forever. I am not suggesting you sell for less than MSRP. I am suggesting you cultivate a loyal brand and dealership following that come back to you time and time again...

There is something called holdback, which is like a rebate to the dealer on all sales, not to mention sweetheart flooring packages a volume rewards. Manufacturers know that with invoices being public information, and many sales being near that figure, they need to protect their dealers with...

W3krn, Let's look at it this way; They must make money to stay in business. But what is the better business model, gouging the crap out of someone who stays angry for years (and tells everyone who'll listen) making $10+ thousand extra on one unit? Or having a reputation for treating their...

Same experience here. A new Superduty every other year and the still need to rip me a new axxhole on any new SVT product. Thank goodness for the internet, I'd rather pay for shipping than get ripped of by an ungrateful business.

It is not true that if a dealer sells at invoice, no profit is earned. There is holdback (which is significant) and many other revenue streams in finance, title and insurance. It is also not true that many dealers are not making gross amounts of money. Sure, the salesman on the floor isn't...

Sounds like your dealership is one to pass up? You can shear sheep over and over, but you can cut them only once. :thumbdown: Oh, yeah got my FGT at MSRP and both an 08' and my current GT500 for under by moving on to the next dealer as you suggest. I think Chrysler's approach will...

Although a huge improvement over the Base/GT I would like it more if the headlight and it's assembly were about 10% larger and if the bumper did not drop down as much in the center where it borders the upper grille. That is about it, love everything else including the N/N FPC motor, big rubber...

Nice analysis and summary of the comparable engines. :thumbsup:

Big +1 here, did not like the base model at all, really like this one.

And both would be correct. ;)

with subtle changes, I agree

Highly unlikely that Ford would send cars and engines all the way to the ring without knowing they can live. That kind of thing is too easy to work out at home.....in private.

C&D After reading their article, I was surprised they are really sticking to their guns that the 5.8 Trinity is coming back in a GT500. :shrug:

me too :thumbdown:

And I still see swirl marks in the paint above the headlight close up and waterspots on the tail lights in one of the rear photos. .

Happy to see the "fangs" in the Grill opening. OK, Hi-Res pictures help alot. Still not in love but maybe the GT500/350 will get me there.