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I think the Nissan privacy policy is written so that they CAN collect and disseminate this information at some point, not that they are currently collecting it. Just planning for future possibilties, basically.

The thing is, you have no idea what anyone here is doing or planning to do. Yes, generally speaking, if you're going to use modern conveniences, you're going to give up data. Also true is that a person can accept that basic premise while still taking steps to limit the data being given up, as...

I'm not sure who you're talking to. Yourself, I'm guessing.

Oh, and about the rest. I was pressed pretty hard to setup and install FordPass as well. I found that interesting during the post-sale process. Clearly, the dealers are getting some kind of incentive for getting customers to run FordPass, and yes, that makes one wonder. And I wouldn't install...

Awesome. I'm sure there's one heck of a story behind all that.

Wait a minute... You've purchased 6-7 new Mustangs since fall of 2020?!?

The Harlem Globalists?

I was gonna say, have some cheese with it.

Yeah, I'm leaning in that direction myself. The article bugged me to no end, but I just don't want to give up the conveniences.

Yep, that's what I alluded to earlier. It's the nature of the beast.

And that's the rub right there. These things can be real conveniences, in some cases lifesavers, but in order to enjoy those benefits we give up information. Think about the Apple Watch that tracks a bunch of health info. All that's passed to Apple servers and, while Apple might protect it, who...

I suppose what I'm wondering about are benefits outside of FordPass. Because I would be surprised if data isn't being passed to Ford outside of FordPass. Of course, a lot of that data could be things like driving habits and such that maybe we don't want Ford to know. "You drove your car too...

If they're asking very personal questions like health information and people are answering the questions, then people are stupid.

So no diagnostic information or such that might be of value? And I have to admit that I like the remote start. I'm kind of in the camp that the cat is out of the bag on all this stuff and there's very little we can do about it except go off the grid completely. And I'm not prepared to go live...

I wonder if the reporter didn't misunderstand what Nissan's privacy policy was saying. It might be that IF they could gather all that weird information THEN they might pass it to third parties. It's inconceivable at this point that they could get health information and such, but who knows what...

So what do you lose by turning off/removing the modem?

Not that avoiding FordPass probably makes much difference. https://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory/carmakers-fail-privacy-test-give-owners-control-personal-102950437

Just noticed this thread, and I'll say that I gave the Camaro about 30 minutes of research before I finalized my decision on the Mustang. I've wanted a Mustang for years, but I thought I'd do a little due diligence first. Wasn't even close, for so many reasons. I know the Camaro has some...

I use whatever is set based on the mode I'm in. I can't remember even looking up the steering wheel settings or consciously noticing any difference.

My seat cooling fans are very loud and intrusive, and at best, they keep my ass a little cooler. 99% of the time I turn them off.