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Ahhh didn't get that far in it. I know that pain. Really sucks.

G.) make up stuff to further your incorrect agenda. H.) I guess it's a sin to cool a car designed for the track. Funny how the Ford GT was a pretty damn good track car with a SC. And for the record there are actually just 6 TRUE coolers. Rest are just passive air vents that merely direct...

All that ADM lost hahahaha.

So they aren't deeply discounted and thousands of people are getting them thousands below MSRP? I think those are almost exactly your words right? Currently, Mustang has an inventory level of 80 days and Camaro is at 71. So both are doing decent enough.

Oh, so you wont answer an honest question? I see. It's cool. Found the info. Thanks Todd. Appreciate the help and the smart assy comment. So basically, yes, its a friends and families program for employees (and those who work WITH Ford but not for them).

Yes, the OTD price on the Mustang is outrageously low. We've seen this before. When you start to make the prices so low it can either do one of two things. Hurt your brand or help your brand. Now, why does Ford have to discount the Mustang SO soon into the S550 life cycle? Isnt X-Plan an...

You? Again? The Camaro doesnt have all the trims out yet but you know that. Color me shocked that you say its a failure already. You've been saying that since day one. Yet, Camaros are out there out tracking Mustangs, hustling down the 1/4 and basically beating them in every single performance...

I understand that but Im just trying to prove that this whole "price sells" thing is completely false. If that was the case there would be more 1SS Camaros being sold and more GT Mustangs. Yet, the GT Premium and 2SS Camaro are easily the most popular of the V8 models.

Nope, if people wanted a cheap muscle car then the Challenger would be selling off the charts. Yet, even though the R/T is the most popular model sold it still only accounts for about 40% of Challenger volume. People harp on price all they want but the actual numbers do NOT support Ford sells...

Yet, at the bottom of the models for both, the prices are NOT that different. They aren't. It's the top models that have the largest price difference. The turbo motors are literally stacked right on top of each other. Go price both out.

Yea, they offer the Flex with the 3.5TT. We almost bought one but the massive AWD transaxle issues steered me away. The updated Explorer looks great and those damn LED headlights are ridiculous cool.

Mustang sold like 115k and Camaro sold 85k. Numbers off the top of the head. Not sure where yours came from. Lol

This is from someone who works on the industry.

Well, what is the percentage of sales for the T4/V6 Mustang? Im sure that you have that information (oh wait, you'll just make it up). As I said, the T4 Camaro will certainly be a hit. It is just the base engine NOT the base car. You can get almost every single option you want on the T4. Why...

You know, I admire you. :D :clap2: The fact that there are plenty of Camaro SS A8 owners in the lower 12s with a stock car is proof that they are just literally point and shoot. Also, Camaro does have two blues on it. I think someone claimed that they didn't earlier. A dark blue and a...

Yet, you are an enthusiast who wanted the absolute cheapest way into a car. No shame in that. I just feel the "overpriced" and "not enough value" is overblown A LOT by any type of car person. The Camaro (and Mustang to an extent truly) are no longer a bargain basement car that was just RWD...

Then what do you say about the Mustang EB? It is literally the same price as the Camaro T4. Once the build numbers are out, I think you will be surprised just how few inexpensive V6s Ford built. Like I said, if you want options you have none on the V6 and are immediately forced into the T4.

It was still riding on S197. It WAS a decade old car. No one is comparing a T4 car to a V8. There are different cars. Completely. No one looking at a loaded T4 is going to go, oh, dang, I can get a V8 with less options but man, its a V8! No comment on the base level T4 from the Mustang...

Which, in the grand scheme of things is nothing. We can all pretty much agree upon that. GM did it very strange with the Camaro this time about. There is no "base" car. You can load up the T4, you can load up the V6 and you can load up the SS. They are 3 completely different flavors for...

Mustang also had a HUGE pent up demand. It was on S197 for almost a decade. It gave a true reason to upgrade to a new Mustang. No denying that fact. None. Camaro6 wont have a huge upswing yet it will climb into the upper 8k rather easily. If you are honestly saying that comparing the sales...