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exactly what i said, the post above me said the 1le beat the pp1 by only a second which is false then said the pp2 beat the pp1 by 3.5. so the 1le beat the pp1 on a smaller track by 3.3 seconds

the 1le beat the pp1 by over 3 seconds on a smaller track then the pp2 beat the pp1 on

just traded in my 15gtpp base with recaros and 7200 miles for 26000

ya i agree the gen5 mustang and gen6 were way different, I had both, not just in looks but ride quality was night and day. it was worth the upgrade

people think the 6gen looks like the 5gen? I absolutely hated the gen5 but like the gen6, I think it looks more aggressive

you don't think the front splitter is adding more force helping grip, I believe is a bit different then the regular gt350

iv heard of the deals people are getting now but at the time I looked they weren't discounting 18s and my 15gtpp ac was going out for the 3rd time with only 1 month left on the warranty so i had limited time. and i cant find times between the gt350 and gt350r but you don't think the gt350r...

got nothing against ford I think they build a better looking car, id have a pp2 on order if they wanted to work on a price, and that race was the gt350r against the ss1le, which it only lost by just over a second, I'm talking about the regular gt350. and based on losing to the r by just over a...

first off not a "chebby" guy, have had way more Ford's then anything, and ya were talking performance, but since the gt350r performance cant be had for msrp ya it matters, and since I'm not allowed to compare cars cause i haven't tracked them then can you, I'm guessing you haven't brought any...

how is adm irrelevant, no one is buying that car for msrp and i guess the hellcat would destroy them all around the track since it has more power right, power means nothing without being able to put it down. and ya ill bet a 1le will beat or at least tie a gt350. And your 100% right I haven't...

please your not touching an r for 60k, and I'm the one saying to match your amazing gt350 against a ss 1le, I'm not afraid to put your more expensive super special gt350 against the 1le even though it's way more expensive and i'm betting you'd be disappointed with results, and the r is an all...

yea bad comparison is the 1le won, they are close in equipment and from thr info we have close in performance. plus gm said that's the car they were gunning for so let's see if they hit their mark

how so both are the cheaper track cars for each brand, now a gt350r against a ss 1le is stupid or a zl1 against a gt350 is stupid but 1le vs gt350 they are both companies cheaper track car

it's not even close to being called a super car, it's got super car performance, not my words but reviewers

except the fact that everyone who reviews says its got super car performance for half the cost. only special thing about thr gt350 is the motor, which if you take a look at the gt350 section isn't the greatest for reliability. and tell me how Ford's chassis and suspension are better, the zl1...

base pp1 doesn't have the touch screen you need the 301a and you need maginiride which is more. base to base the mustang is way less optioned. so again my argument dollar for dollar the camaro delivers more

so quick question if he has to let go the sales point and that mustangs sell more why don't mustang guys have to let go the camaro performs better, you say retail sales dont matter its over all sales but when the camaro outperforms the mustang there's a bunch of excuses about tires or there not...

thats 7 grand more with less warranty, and i don't plan on trading up again only reason I did this is because my 15 gt we having repeat issues and my warranty was almost up

i was talking unskilled driver in both cars like one bad driver driving both cars

lowest i saw was 49999 before tax and tags