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  1. Throttle House puts the 2020 GT500, Camaro ZL1 and Challenger Hellcat Redeye on the track

    For anyone wondering what the outcome would be for a ZL1 1LE vs GT500. Enjoy this video! Note: This never made it into the Throttle House Final cut of the video. It was the base ZL1 in that video. This was done when the Cameras stopped.
  2. Throttle House puts the 2020 GT500, Camaro ZL1 and Challenger Hellcat Redeye on the track

    GM never gets any love for all their engineering prowess in vehicle kinematics. The ZL1 1LE is a purpose built road course weapon that still holds its own. The best analogy that I can make between the ZL1 1LE and the GT500 is this- ZL1 1LE is a Summer Tire (when it’s summer) GT500 is an All...
  3. Throttle House puts the 2020 GT500, Camaro ZL1 and Challenger Hellcat Redeye on the track

    They did it right. The base ZL1 has Mag ride and they wanted to test it against the GT500 which also has Mag ride. The ZL1 1LE on the other hand is engineered as a track day weapon.....just like the GT500 CFTP. At some point, let's all agree the Alpha chassis of the Camaro is amazing for what...
  4. Throttle House puts the 2020 GT500, Camaro ZL1 and Challenger Hellcat Redeye on the track

    Just so everyone is clear and this is based on new information - The GT500 was supplied by Ford. It had the 'track' alignment. The ZLE was supplied by a viewer. It had the 'street' alignment. Any discussion about the tires should be moot at this point. The ZLE was short 110hp, No DCT and no...
  5. Chris Harris did not like the GT350R!

    I don't understand why some people have their panties in a bunch over Harris not liking the GT350R. Opinions are like Aholes...everyone has one. If you have a unique experience in the GT350 ownership, then enjoy it fully and don't be worried about what other people think. GT350 is an amazing...
  6. 2019 ZL1 is 3,883 pounds--I was surprised today..........

    I admire Ford's engineers for doing what they did with the GT500 and make it handle. God Bless America for giving us amazing options with the GT350/500, ZL1/1LE, Challenger and Charger 392/Hellcats etc. Considering this is a ZL1 vs GT500 thread. I am going to stick with my 6MT, 3853LB, Alpha...
  7. Long Term Reliability

    Well, keep in mind you have a 'Flat Plane Crank' V8 that is made by Ford. Engine vibration is a concern as it is literally shaking itself apart whether Ford likes to admit it or not. The NVH is a huge reason why most manufacturers stick with Cross Plane V8s. Ford's own Mustang GT4 went Cross...
  8. 2020 GT500 Curb Weight and Dimensions Released

    Really? Then why exactly is the GT500 tacking on all the CF parts? This car has been heavily marketed as a weapon for the 'track'. Look at all the marketing videos and brochures... The ZL1 1LE is a no compromise driver's tool that absolutely works on track and still works as a canyon carver (If...
  9. 2020 GT500 Curb Weight and Dimensions Released

    Yes, but imagine the energy expended in trying to stop and turn. The CFTP will easily be touching $90k when spec'd. That is like putting Carbon Fiber on a pig to make it a little more nimble but guess what?.... it's still a pig. Maybe this article from R&T will help you understand the...
  10. 2020 GT500 Curb Weight and Dimensions Released

    The ZL1 1LE is 3860 lbs for the MT. Auto adds another 60 lbs. The ZL1 1LE also has 11 heat exhangers for cooling. No question, the GT500 is a porker. That is the weight of 2 Lotus Exiges. I would think more than 55% of the GT500 weight will be up front. This will require a lot of energy and...
  11. Serpentine and AC belt fell off during track days, wtf!

    Exactly why other manufacturers stick with Cross planes. FPC truly shakes everything out of place so to Honeybadger's point requires constant inspection.
  12. Just ordered Antigravity Lithium Battery

    Not trying to be a downer but - Just ask BBI in California about their experience with Lithium Batteries. I am never buying one after all the horror stories on burning.
  13. CostCo Gas

    Chevron Techron every 3000 miles. Works like a charm.
  14. CostCo Gas

    Exactly!!! People here think that all the 'Top Tier' brands have some other derivative of gas. The story is always in the additives.
  15. CostCo Gas

    Not sure what your point is with that link. I know Top Tier gas has additives/detergents. My comments states that too. I said you don't have to married to a Top Tier gas brand. You can still go non-Top Tier and use an additive like Chevron Techron every 3000 miles and be fine as both clean...
  16. CostCo Gas

    All gas is the same. Only thing you need to look at is the Octane Ratings as there are Federal mandates on Octane levels. The only difference between say Exxon and other non 'Top Tier' brands is the additives (detergents) that are used. These additives and detergents vary from vary brand to...
  17. Anyone move to the GT350 from a C7 Stingray?

    I have friends that are looking into the Z06 as well and they only plan to track the car once or twice a year. Having test driven the Z, the car certainly makes a strong impression for them on purchase. Take it for what it is, as noted - if you plan to never take the car to the track or if you...
  18. Anyone move to the GT350 from a C7 Stingray?

    Those complaints have not dented my experience with the car. Love the car to bits.
  19. Anyone move to the GT350 from a C7 Stingray?

    Interesting as I have a buddy in TX who has a 2017 C7Z who has thousands of track miles with no limp mode once. He is in South Texas (around Houston) and frequents MSR Cresson and COTA a lot.He also recently drove his car from Houston to CA, also hit Sonoma Raceway with no issues. He also has...
  20. Anyone move to the GT350 from a C7 Stingray?

    As someone who owns a C7 Z06, it was my first American purchase and coming out of a list of M cars, I could not be happier. The sheer flexibility of the car still amazes me.: Handling - Back road / Track monster Targa Top (for them days you want to take it all in) Interior quality...





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