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  1. 2017 Ford Mustang will outperform Chevy Camaro in every way

    This, I'm going to (lightheartedly) take issue with, based on my own experiences. :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: Honest? What a JOKE! I logged out some time back after being told by some ... for lack of better word, dingbat... that her MASSIVE 6'4" 190 lb husband wouldn't fit into a Mercedes SLK...
  2. 2017 Ford Mustang will outperform Chevy Camaro in every way

    They've made many changes, but generally, they do show many variances. Yesterday, I looked over several models and some get no weight listing at all, while others are broken down by several factors. Any of it is general, however, and I'd be stunned if the weights they're using aren't...
  3. 2017 Ford Mustang will outperform Chevy Camaro in every way

    Something could have mixed up here, but part of what stands out to me is, Cadillac put up weights a couple months ago and the Coupe weighed more by their own account. Then it went to less and now they're even. These(from my memory) are changed directly on Cadillac's own public website. They...
  4. CTSC Update: Multimatic Motorsports will have two cars at Lime Rock this weekend

    I'm not sure I can call it that. After all, the Z/28 has a 505hp rating, so it's no 400hp class car either. :)
  5. CTSC Update: Multimatic Motorsports will have two cars at Lime Rock this weekend

    Seemed that he meant, Corvette meets the rules requirements to the point, if they said it was allowed, it would need no changes before racing. Maybe I misunderstood, but that's how I took it. :thumbsup:
  6. 2017 Ford Mustang will outperform Chevy Camaro in every way

    The Mustang was all new for 2015. Need I say more? ;) Could be. I'm expecting it to be right in line with the Mustang, which is in that area. I agree that they need this model and not just because Ford brought the turbo 4 back, but because people WANT those little engines for any number of...
  7. 2017 Ford Mustang will outperform Chevy Camaro in every way

    :cool: testing. I noted quickly, the 12.1 1/4 mile ET and that's GREAT! I also noted that it's a solid 6mph under what was argued for weeks on end it seems, in another recent test. Seems to me, they've concluded what I did, which is: If you really want an ATS-V, get the 8spd sedan. It makes...
  8. CTSC Update: Multimatic Motorsports will have two cars at Lime Rock this weekend

    The problem you'll always have though, is they're catering to millions in some form, not just a few of us and that means they have a number of choices(obviously). Ask a million people if they want 500hp @ 22mpg or 30mpg w/ 300 and ... you know. The skewed result would obviously favor economy...
  9. CTSC Update: Multimatic Motorsports will have two cars at Lime Rock this weekend

    Good luck to 'em! It's gotten interesting, I'll say that. The new GT350R-C is obviously a good car. :clap2: As a reminder... http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26995 I think we could say... thePill called it... quite well. :thumbsup: As to the series rule changes... :tsk...
  10. 2017 Ford Mustang will outperform Chevy Camaro in every way

    My reading of the specs shows the Mustang to be larger. It's taller by 1.3" and it's wider by .7" as well, but the Camaro length matches Mustang. On that note: Good luck to ANYONE over 3' tall who has to get into the back of the new Camaro! Mustang isn't worth a darn back there, but Camaro is...
  11. 2017 Ford Mustang will outperform Chevy Camaro in every way

    Thanks! I didn't look for it, but was in the loop like most everyone, that it was 2013 and by then... car was basically done. In 2010, however... not even close to done. What's so bad? I'm not even sure what you're saying here. It's like you are convinced the new Camaro will lose 300 lb and...
  12. 2017 Ford Mustang will outperform Chevy Camaro in every way

    It's hard to make heads and tails of all that! Is he actually saying there is a 300 lb loss or that he thinks not? Not, is what it seems. :shrug: Even so, I'm not seeing where 3,550 equates to a 300 lb loss against 3,703. Seems to me, that's just over 150 lb or... half of the claimed loss...
  13. 2017 Ford Mustang will outperform Chevy Camaro in every way

    There are many reasons I don't believe the new Camaro is 300 lb lighter. Foremost is the obvious fact, ATS V6 is listed @ 3,530 and I see no possibility GM is going to pull out the stops for the cash investment needed to drop another 100+ just for Camaro V6. It makes no sense because that Camaro...
  14. 2017 Ford Mustang will outperform Chevy Camaro in every way

    More on Dave in a bit. It does indeed matter that 2013 was years ago, because it makes his comment factual, like it or not, exact or not and he never said what you're insinuating and he specifically made that point! Same as him saying "other than Dave" and you bringing... Dave! He said "years...
  15. 2017 Ford Mustang will outperform Chevy Camaro in every way

    Last I heard, the new Camaro won't have a TR6060 anymore... It's said to be getting the TR-3160(like the GT350). Obviously, that could be wrong and/or it could be that the 4cyl and V6 get the 3160, but not the SS. If it does get the 3160, it's a roughly 120 lb unit(dry), unless it's GT350...
  16. 2017 Ford Mustang will outperform Chevy Camaro in every way

    I missed that and only got that the goal was to make this car lighter by as much as possible(using the given materials, I suppose). Since when is the truth not valid? He didn't do that part. He said adding all the creature comforts everyone likes adds weight and ... it does. Final weight does...
  17. 2017 Ford Mustang will outperform Chevy Camaro in every way

    I donno, but I looked at it as overall info since it covered so much and... you're welcome. 2SS does come with plenty you won't just see on a 1SS and oddly, the 2LT does as well. I think I'm seeing a glimpse of where the 200 lb difference really is. ;) Dual Zone A/C, HUD, 9speakers rather than...
  18. 2017 Ford Mustang will outperform Chevy Camaro in every way

    :rant::thumbsup: That's plenty of information, but it's kinda telling, what it lacks. There's the 6 piston front brake package, but no 1LE, etc. Standard SS brakes will be 4pot front and rear. Standard otherwise are 4pot front. 5LQ LPO, 6 Piston...
  19. 2017 Ford Mustang will outperform Chevy Camaro in every way

    LT/Coy ... not OHV vs DOHC? That clearly isn't the case as 1 is OHV and the other is DOHC. That's likely just because you're lost as well. :lol: Disingenuous much? :shrug: :thumbsup: Similar for me, but my injuries happened stateside(except 1) and my exit came.. soon after ODS and while it was...
  20. 2017 Ford Mustang will outperform Chevy Camaro in every way

    Just because a GM dude said it lapped the GM track quicker... doesn't mean it will lap all tracks quicker and for all we know, it was an upgraded model being used. I'd be a little upset with GM if the new SS doesn't perform better than the current 1LE, but only because they made a point to say...





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