Science is now cancelled? [USERS NOW BANNED FOR POLITICS]

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Hello; Another "money" article link.

Britain's former trade secretary calls for carbon border tax (msn.com)

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Treasurer Garrity warns banks against divesting from fossil fuel companies (msn.com)

 

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Biden’s Executive Order To Protect Financial System From Climate Change – Forbes Advisor

 

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Follow the (Climate Change) Money | The Heritage Foundation


Hello; Another "money" article link. This one goes into some detail about where the money goes and comes from.

 

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The climate change money machine | TheHill

Hello; Another "money" article link. The climate champions will not approve of this one.

 

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Hello; For what it may be worth I did instruct a freshman geology course in 2001 at a small college. This was before global warming became the hot topic. Had to cover a wide range of geological concepts. Does not make me an expert in the more narrow field of climate study for sure.

I would add a concept to how the "snowball earth" may have thawed out, and a wild guess. Not that I somehow "know" what happened. In addition to CO2 released during a volcanic eruption and the suspended fine particles that might form a shield in the atmosphere. There often is a lot of heavier particles (ash) which can blanket large areas. The ash will reduce the reflectivity of the earth on one hand and being darker than snow, will absorb more of the suns heat.

The wild guess is there could have been an asteroid strike. This could also be a tipping point sort of thing to break the ice grip. I was born and raised in Middlesboro KY. Learned not too long ago that the town rests in an old meteor crater. Pretty sure it is a much bigger hole than the one in Arizona.
If you have ever visited the Cumberland Gap National Park and walked to the Pinnacle overlook in the park, you can look down on the town. I guess you can google it to get a size idea.


We should not forget the earth's sweet spot orbit. Not too close like Venus and not too far.

 

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The climate change money machine | TheHill

Hello; Another "money" article link. The climate champions will not approve of this one.

I took the time to read the first few paragraphs of that article and all I can say is….wow.
What an amazingly shitful piece of journalism.

The topic of the thread is “science is now cancelled” and that article is living proof of exactly that.

In fact, here’s the VERY FIRST sentence from the article:

“The period of atmospheric and surface warming that began in the late 1970s ended in the mid- to late 1990s, but the climate change industry is hot.”

If a journalist is going to try and disprove science, the least they could do is accurately represent it before attempting to dismiss it.

Show me on this chart where the period of warming ended exactly?

I’d suggest you stop paying attention to hacks who can’t even get their opening statement factually correct. Their bias is showing before they even tried to make their point.

 

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The climate change money machine | TheHill

Hello; Another "money" article link. The climate champions will not approve of this one.

Hello; Those still following this thread will notice the pattern the OP has repeated. I posted the link for a possible discussion about the money. The OP found a line which has little to nothing to do with the money and went on a rant. No discussion of a "follow the money" sort.

The idea with a look at the money is to see what role it may play in things.

 

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Hello; Those still following this thread will notice the pattern the OP has repeated. I posted the link for a possible discussion about the money. The OP found a line which has little to nothing to do with the money and went on a rant. No discussion of a "follow the money" sort.

The idea with a look at the money is to see what role it may play in things.

The reasoning being that if you can’t trust the source to accurately report on the data, why would you assume any more honesty when reporting the economics?
I’m sorry that you might feel differently, but I prefer my journalists to have some integrity about themselves.

 

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Hello; Those still following this thread will notice the pattern the OP has repeated. I posted the link for a possible discussion about the money. The OP found a line which has little to nothing to do with the money and went on a rant. No discussion of a "follow the money" sort.

The idea with a look at the money is to see what role it may play in things.

Do you REALLY want to be taking advice from someone whose moral compass allowed them to take money from big tobacco? Really? These are the people you trust to give you accurate information?

Here’s a simple quote from the article linked below:

“Ben Zycher was one of their later recruits, and his role was mainly to provide help in convincing other economist that the ultra-libertarian version of free-market economics applied to the health industries, and that cigarettes should not be regulated in any special way. […] He appears to have shifted to the Cato Institute which also did contract tobacco industry lobbying work,” SourceWatch reported. [4]”

https://www.desmog.com/benjamin-zycher/

 

[Gregs24]

Humans live at the equator and humans live in the artic.

There is nothing we can do about the earth warming, or cooling so we will adapt or die out. Banning Ice cars and fossil fuels will not change anything.

Humans live at the equator and humans live in the artic

I wouldn't try living in the back of a lorry for too long ! We will adapt or die - your very words, and that adaptation is to stop burning fossil fuels. Glad you finally got it.

Once again a bold statement of 'fact' according to you - but the reality is that banning ICE cars isn't just about CO2, it is also about pollution, but you have already made it clear you don't care about that as you live in the suburbs and don't use public transport in case you mix with the peons you so align with. So it will change many things.

 

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Hello; For what it may be worth I did instruct a freshman geology course in 2001 at a small college. This was before global warming became the hot topic. Had to cover a wide range of geological concepts. Does not make me an expert in the more narrow field of climate study for sure.

I would add a concept to how the "snowball earth" may have thawed out, and a wild guess. Not that I somehow "know" what happened. In addition to CO2 released during a volcanic eruption and the suspended fine particles that might form a shield in the atmosphere. There often is a lot of heavier particles (ash) which can blanket large areas. The ash will reduce the reflectivity of the earth on one hand and being darker than snow, will absorb more of the suns heat.

The wild guess is there could have been an asteroid strike. This could also be a tipping point sort of thing to break the ice grip. I was born and raised in Middlesboro KY. Learned not too long ago that the town rests in an old meteor crater. Pretty sure it is a much bigger hole than the one in Arizona.
If you have ever visited the Cumberland Gap National Park and walked to the Pinnacle overlook in the park, you can look down on the town. I guess you can google it to get a size idea.


We should not forget the earth's sweet spot orbit. Not too close like Venus and not too far.

The suggestions you have made are all things that have undoubtedly happened - but you don't need to take a wild guess as a lot of what happened has been worked out by geologists and climatologists and is easily found on the internet.

 

[Gregs24]

Hello; Another "money" article link.

Britain's former trade secretary calls for carbon border tax (msn.com)

I see nothing wrong with this is principle. Allowing cheap imports from places where standards are lower has always been a problem, whatever standard it is you are talking about, not just environmental.

How you use that money raised is also important in assisting those third party countries to improve. As I posted many pages back it is completely iniquitous to prevent other countries developing by restricting their use of technologies we have benefited from without assisting them to develop cleaner or improved standards.

This is a global issue and will only be solved on a global level with EVERYBODY working towards it.

 

[Gregs24]

Is that so......

UK International Climate Fund (publishing.service.gov.uk)

Leeds and London set to become global centres of green finance - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)

 

[Gregs24]

You ignored the first link then where the UK is spending billions overseas - didn't fit in with your narrative?

So what would you do then? You don't have the option to ignore climate change as it is happening, people of the world are sick of the pollution from burning fossil fuels that are damaging their health and you have to come up with a plan.

You either discount or ignore everything that has been mentioned, so here is your chance.

Go for it - bjstang's plan .....

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