HRE & the 2015 Mustang: 6G Test-Fitting

[S550guy]

FYI the company name is HRE. FlowForm is the name of their manufacturing process.

Got that, the OP's name is FlowForm_Wheels, so I was referring to the person's screen name.

My question concerns their upcoming 18" wheel... is it being made to fit over the Brembo front caliper?

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[WOT]

It looks like the tire might rub against the shocks when going over bumps. Can anyone confirm this?

The part that compresses is the bottom of the hat up wards which can be seen right above the wheel. Adding camber will definitely touch the cylinder meaning you will need to add a bit of negative offset to push the wheel away form the cylinder but closer to the to fender. looking at the pictures it looks there is no more than .5" of clearance there.

I had 315's on my 2010 you need to go bigger a lot bigger. There is room for 12" wheels on the back and that means 335s or 345 tires. And at least 295s for the front. I am ready to order NOW if you can deliver what I want.

Not sure if a 12" will fit in the back. We need pictures of the rear suspension with the these wheels on to see if there's more room.
Nitto's have always ran narrow. I don't think you can run a anything bigger than a true 275.

 

[carguy]

The part that compresses is the bottom of the hat up wards which can be seen right above the wheel. Adding camber will definitely touch the cylinder meaning you will need to add a bit of negative offset to push the wheel away form the cylinder but closer to the to fender. looking at the pictures it looks there is no more than .5" of clearance there.

Not sure if a 12" will fit in the back. We need pictures of the rear suspension with the these wheels on to see if there's more room.
Nitto's have always ran narrow. I don't think you can run a anything bigger than a true 275.

The strut moves with the wheel when changing camber, in other words the distance you have between the strut and wheel will always remain the same regardless of camber settings and suspension movement.

 

[EXP Jawa]

The strut moves with the wheel when changing camber, in other words the distance you have between the strut and wheel will always remain the same regardless of camber settings and suspension movement.

Not always. That would be the case if the change is made with camber plates on the upper strut mounts. However, I've seen a lot of cases where eccentric bolts are used where the strut is fastened to the spindle instead. If someone does it that way, the hub/wheel/tire moves in relation to the strut, and that gap potentially closes.

 

[carguy]

Not always. That would be the case if the change is made with camber plates on the upper strut mounts. However, I've seen a lot of cases where eccentric bolts are used where the strut is fastened to the spindle instead. If someone does it that way, the hub/wheel/tire moves in relation to the strut, and that gap potentially closes.

True, and you would be referring to camber bolts. I have heard that's not a great idea. Those wanting to add negative camber for increased front end grip will get a little of that naturally from lowering. The optimal way to either get more negative camber or positive camber is (as you mentioned) camber plates, in which the spindle stays static with the strut.

 

[WOT]

The strut moves with the wheel when changing camber, in other words the distance you have between the strut and wheel will always remain the same regardless of camber settings and suspension movement.

You're right. Two things, one the wheel is static at a fix location with or without camber the compression is between the top mount and bottom hat.

Separate issue, Adding camber beyond the way the wheel sits in the picture will create a clearance issues between the lip guard and strut. To gain more clearance for camber, the wheel will need more negative offset to gain space between the tire and strut.

Edit: My bad, I didn't refresh the page when I wrote this. I went and made a sandwich came back and submitted it and didn't see the other two replys.

 

[FlowForm_Wheels]

Ohohoh 315 Rears????? No spacers unmodified????

The beef!!!!! Hmm i need to burn those tires lol

No spacers indeed. This will be a tailored bolt-on perfect fitment.

performance pack 6 pistons in the front?

Unfortunately it was not a PP which drove me crazy because in the other room that also had a EB PP which as you all know has the same 4POT 355mm front brakes as the standard GT. So the two Mustangs they had both had the same 4POT brakes. We do have the brake data of the GT PP however and have made our 19" and 20" fitments to clear those brakes. For 18", see below...

What was the reason behind the 275/35-20 front tire width?

Honestly it was all Nitto had to offer and they were very generous in helping us out. I personally would run 285/30 20 up front and 305/30 20 out back which is going to work perfectly.

FlowForm,

Were you able to fit an 18" wheel over the front Brembo's? Not sure if this car was a PP or not... but if it was, were you able to?

335's?!????? That's a lot of tire!!!! Better get that roll bar adjusted accordingly!

I've been thinking about this... would be cool to do 265 front/295 or 305 rear... looks like that's doable! And if I could get different 18 or 19" wheels that fit over the Brembo's.. sign me up!!

Great work!

Thanks S550guy! We are currently very focused on trying to work a barrel shape in an 18" that will accommodate the 6POT 380mm GT PP front brakes. It will not be easy but I am hopeful. Worst case, the 18x10 track set up we have will work on the S197 AND all S550 minus GTPP. If this ends up being the case, we are working on sizes in 19" that will work good as staggered and a square option. Obviously 19" track tires are more than 18" but we will have a solid set up.

 

[WOT]

No spacers indeed. This will be a tailored bolt-on perfect fitment.

Honestly it was all Nitto had to offer and they were very generous in helping us out. I personally would run 285/30 20 up front and 305/30 20 out back which is going to work perfectly.
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Do you have any pictures of the suspension clearance of the back wheels?

 

[FlowForm_Wheels]

You're right. Two things, one the wheel is static at a fix location with or without camber the compression is between the top mount and bottom hat.

Separate issue, Adding camber beyond the way the wheel sits in the picture will create a clearance issues between the lip guard and strut. To gain more clearance for camber, the wheel will need more negative offset to gain space between the tire and strut.

You both are correct. What we want to do is create the best fitment allowed within safe tolerances. With the 10" there is a bit more room to move outboard but then you would run into potential issues of rubbing the fender if wanting to run 285 or 295 tires. It's always a bit of a compromise.
In the end, as carguy stated, most everyone that is serious about changing their camber settings are going to do it with camber plates.
Of note: the picture of the strut clearance is not the best as it is at an angle. There is more room than it appears from the photo. Enough to allow some safe movement if one were to choose camber bolts.

 

[FlowForm_Wheels]

Do you have any pictures of the suspension clearance of the back wheels?

Sorry, no good pictures of the back wheel clearance. It was tough to get the right angle to be honest. Of note: the inner fender lining looked to be the closest point.

 

[williamwally]

Now that is one good looking black wheel!

 

[FlowForm_Wheels]

Now that is one good looking black wheel!

Why thank you sir.

 

[FlowForm_Wheels]

Just thought I would take this opportunity to drop a photo of our existing FlowForm wheel, the FF01. Our measurement session is for our new FlowForm style that we will be debuting at SEMA this year and adding to our offering at the start of 2015. It is going to be HOT!

 

[scottpe]

I had 315's on my 2010 you need to go bigger a lot bigger. There is room for 12" wheels on the back and that means 335s or 345 tires.

And who has confirmed 12-inchers fit??

335/345s? That's pretty extreme. If the car is blown maybe. Otherwise, that's a lot of extra weight to twist.

But regardless, I'd have to see them on the car. I could envision them possibly looking silly even if they technically 'fit.' Sometimes the mega-wide wheels/tires look cartoonish on certain cars, especially from the back. But it's all subjective of course. Some people probably think the below looks good (those are 335s). To me, it's just a bit too much.

I have a feeling 305-315 is going to be my personal limit.

 

[Mikes5.0]

Love wide fitment and exactly the size I want on mine. So any chance HRE releasing the flowforms with the P45 or P47 design?

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