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Ya but does the ford sync system downgrade 24bit 192khz flac to cd quality? Do you have a spec sheet to show this? I can't find any information to state weather it does or not. I also can't find anything stating that DSD is supported.
You have to use an app such as Onkyo HF. Hi Res audio is only worth it if you have source material that was recorded in that format. If you're listening to ANYTHING mastered on analog tape remixing into hi-res only adds artifacts.
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I think there's a guy on here, at least there was, who sells the full SYNC 3 conversion kit. I would definitely get SYNC 3, I really enjoy mine and with the update you can use Apple Car Play or Android Auto, so you have access to navigation. You pay more for it but it's OEM and works and looks great. I try to stay OEM as much as possible on my cars, especially when they're newer, and the SYNC 3 is a pretty good system in my experience.
Thanks man I'll have to look into finding the sync 3
 
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Can you send the link to that thread sorry I'm still new to forums and I find it hard to navigate
 

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You have to use an app such as Onkyo HF. Hi Res audio is only worth it if you have source material that was recorded in that format. If you're listening to ANYTHING mastered on analog tape remixing into hi-res only adds artifacts.
I get my music from HD tracks they are reputable and don't just sell upsampled files. Some really great recordings on there.
 

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Name an album.
I really like Madonna (don't judge hahah) Their recording of True Blue is amazing.

Fun Somenights is also really good

Daft Punk random access memories is great as well
 

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I really like Madonna (don't judge hahah) Their recording of True Blue is amazing.

Fun Somenights is also really good

Daft Punk random access memories is great as well
So the HDTracks people have a time machine that allowed them to go back to 1986 or whenever she laid that stuff down on analog tape, and were able to also record it to digital? Any source material recorded to analog will ALWAYS be upsampled in some way during the A/D conversion in the studio. If you want to hear that album in its most pristine condition find a copy of the 1st Japanese pressing on CD and rip it to .wav
 

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So the HDTracks people have a time machine that allowed them to go back to 1986 or whenever she laid that stuff down on analog tape, and were able to also record it to digital? Any source material recorded to analog will ALWAYS be upsampled in some way during the A/D conversion in the studio. If you want to hear that album in its most pristine condition find a copy of the 1st Japanese pressing on CD and rip it to .wav
Analog is never upsampled it is simply sampled. You do understand what digital audio is right? The difference between a 44khz file and a 192khz file is the number of "steps per second" (44,000times vs 192,000 times). A digital file is converted back to analog via a dac and played back as analog. HD tracks works with the labels and has access to the original master and then they create hi res files off that master ( if digital they don't go above the original masters sample rate hence no upsample). The reason hi res files sound better is they are more representative of the original source. If they just took a old file and converted it to hi res I agree with you it wouldn't sound better and may even introduce artifacts. HD Tracks doesn't do this... Most pristine copy of that madonna album would probably by a 180gram vynl pressing played back with a Koetsu cart.
 

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Analog is never upsampled it is simply sampled. You do understand what digital audio is right? The difference between a 44khz file and a 192khz file is the number of "steps per second" (44,000times vs 192,000 times). A digital file is converted back to analog via a dac and played back as analog. HD tracks works with the labels and has access to the original master and then they create hi res files off that master ( if digital they don't go above the original masters sample rate hence no upsample). The reason hi res files sound better is they are more representative of the original source. If they just took a old file and converted it to hi res I agree with you it wouldn't sound better and may even introduce artifacts. HD Tracks doesn't do this... Most pristine copy of that madonna album would probably by a 180gram vynl pressing played back with a Koetsu cart.
Thxultra's got you on this one dude. The best way to listen to an album is from one recorded in analog and played through a record player with an analog tube amp (actually an old reel to reel would be better, but you won't find music for them anymore). It's recordings done in digital that suck, not analog. There's a reason bands like Foo Fighters went back to doing analog masters.
 

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The reason hi res files sound better is they are more representative of the original source..
How? The original source was analog. What's on that tape is on that tape, now it's just in a bigger container than a 16/44.1 rip from CD. The sound shouldn't have changed. That's why early Black Triangles are so f'ng expensive. Most are flat transfers. Hence my statement that what HD tracks is doing is indeed upsampling when compared the original red book value. (If you took that to mean something else??)
If an album is recorded digitally then that is a whole different conversation and in that case if it was laid down in 24/48 then yes down sampling can subtract from the sound. But I'm sure you've heard crap at 16/44.1 and crap at 24/96.
What the album sounds like on vinyl is irrelevant here, we're discussing car audio. I wasn't comparing the HD version to anything except the original CD much less a record played with a 5 figure record needle.
 

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Thxultra's got you on this one dude. The best way to listen to an album is from one recorded in analog and played through a record player with an analog tube amp (actually an old reel to reel would be better, but you won't find music for them anymore). It's recordings done in digital that suck, not analog. There's a reason bands like Foo Fighters went back to doing analog masters.
That sort of backs up my point. But we're here discussing digital audio in a car. First vinyl pressings played through old Macs and some B&W's are always going to blow way what we try and achieve in a car.
 

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That sort of backs up my point. But we're here discussing digital audio in a car. First vinyl pressings played through old Macs and some B&W's are always going to blow way what we try and achieve in a car.
I don't know, sounded to me like you were saying recordings done in digital were better. Ripped music is still better coming from an analog source over a digital one. That's where HDmusic is a neat place to buy music. A lot of those earlier recording are as close to the original as you'll get in a digital format.
 

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Nooo. I love analog recordings played back on a proper stereo.
But if I'm listening to digital I'm choosing early pressings of Japanese and West German discs almost every time. I had a large collection of HDTracks and then I compared the two with ABx compare on Foobar with a reference system and I chose the early discs almost every time.
 

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Seems to me just from reading comments on this forum all the aftermarket units seem kinda glitchy to say the least. I miss the good old days when any $150 deck would work trouble free for the life of the car.
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