Enough with the bickering..........and back on topic 
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Spartan
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Changes on mine.
The brakes are completely sufficient...as have the magazines have said and they are on all 4 corners not just the front like the GTPP. The 20" wheels on the SS are premium. What you are adding is a unique wheel pattern with the red stripe....
Come on dude...at least try to be fair. You're loading up the car to support your argument.
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Okay so...
GM's big announcement was the Buick alpha based coupe concept...the Spark EV and the Cruze Hatchback...
Ford has a "reveal" in about 10 minutes...
GM's Detroit showing was terrible, dull and frankly moronic. The biggest show of the year and they punted.
I'd like to see Ford bring a bit more sizzle .
GM's big announcement was the Buick alpha based coupe concept...the Spark EV and the Cruze Hatchback...
Ford has a "reveal" in about 10 minutes...
GM's Detroit showing was terrible, dull and frankly moronic. The biggest show of the year and they punted.
I'd like to see Ford bring a bit more sizzle .
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The first screen shot is the manual version of the car without the 6 pistons and its shows an MSRP of over 47k. That was the original point that a premium PP GT comes with many more options for less than 47k. In the second screen shot I optioned out a fully loaded SS with the brakes and auto to prove that with or without the auto trans the Camaro is over 50k fully loaded.
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50hhh
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No the price for premium wheels is the same with or without the red stripe. The options on both cars are plain as day. The car is over 50k without the wheels you are talking about that cost $1995. My argument still stands its a 50k car fully loaded with or without the wheels.Changes on mine.
The brakes are completely sufficient...as have the magazines have said and they are on all 4 corners not just the front like the GTPP. The 20" wheels on the SS are premium. What you are adding is a unique wheel pattern with the red stripe....
Come on dude...at least try to be fair. You're loading up the car to support your argument.
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Nissan's new Titan concept is pretty sick...going to give the F-150 Raptor some run for it's money.
The Buick is a pretty big reveal...I don't think they punted. If you see the reviews on it...everyone says it's going to be the show winner and nothing but positives on it.
Indeed........I hope it's not just the Fusion Hybrid. The "top secret" photo certainly looked like it though......with the plug lead clearly on show.
The Fusion Sport has been a nice addition, but was really hoping for something more Mustangy in terms of news!
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Indeed........I hope it's not just the Fusion Hybrid. The "top secret" photo certainly looked like it though......with the plug lead clearly on show.
The Fusion Sport has been a nice addition, but was really hoping for something more Mustangy in terms of news!
Dear Big 3...
Plug in hybrids are not the way to ignite passion and excitement at an auto show.
Good example: 2015 NAIAS...Ford GT, GT350R and the Raptor...BIG SHOWING!
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They are plain as day to us that understand what is comparable...what you are adding is not comparable. The 20" inch wheels on the SS are equivalent to the GTPP ones. The 2 dealer ones are above and beyond. The brakes you're adding are not needed on the SS as the magazines have said. So you're inflating the price over $5k.
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What I mean by punted..is that there isn't anything other than the Spark EV that is a solid "we're making this"...
Ford brought out the (90%) production ready GT least year, the GT350R and the Raptor..there weren't any doubts that they were going to do those cars.
GM brought an EV and a concept..to me that's a punt. It's a beautiful concept, but unless they're serious about delivering on it..I just think GM's showing this year was a bit flat.
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Ok Just to clarify, I have built a fully loaded SS auto with mag ride, Dual mode exhaust, and the performance brakes with NO additional options. If you remove the auto trans the price becomes $49,150.
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I don't know if this was posted here before but be prepared for the refreshed front end for the upcoming 2017+ mustangs. I am sure it will look similar. Reverse front bottom splitter like gt350 and updated headlights!
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The current fusion design has been around since August of 2012. I doubt a Fusion refresh 4 years later would have anything to do with a mustang design that came out a year ago.
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