Dealer Training Guide

[JimmyTwoTimes]

notice how even in this guide it says "more than" (insert horse power here).
Which might explain why the dealer today stated that the horse power that ford released was under stated

Until they released the hp / torque numbers two weeks ago, all they'd said all year was "more than" those numbers. This printing just predates that info release.

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[Robinson02]

Until they released the hp / torque numbers two weeks ago, all they'd said all year was "more than" those numbers. This printing just predates that info release.

:doh: damn, forgot about that

 

[JimmyTwoTimes]

I like how they list EPAS as an advantage for the Mustang. I guess the ability to adjust steering weight is nice, and there's a nominal improvement in fuel efficiency too, but can't say I've had the pleasure of driving a car with a nice EPAS rack.

I agree with you completely; electric power steering is an inevitibility, but I wouldn't call it a bonus. Especially since the power steering module is the only thing on my Mustang that failed (covered under warranty). Biggest plus I can see: hopefully someday that obnoxious whine on cold mornings from cars turning with worn accessory belts will be a thing of the past.

The one on the Cayman is lovely, though.

 

[OppoLock]

I agree with you completely; electric power steering is an inevitibility, but I wouldn't call it a bonus. Especially since the power steering module is the only thing on my Mustang that failed (covered under warranty). Biggest plus I can see: hopefully someday that obnoxious whine on cold mornings from cars turning with worn accessory belts will be a thing of the past.

The one on the Cayman is lovely, though.

Oh wow, I never even thought about that obnoxious steering pump whine. So that's a goner? Shit, that's almost worth it just from a perceived quality standpoint.

 

[JimmyTwoTimes]

Oh wow, I never even thought about that obnoxious steering pump whine. So that's a goner? Shit, that's almost worth it just from a perceived quality standpoint.

Yep; that's strictly a hydraulic-steering noise. So you should hear it less and less frequently in the future.

 

[Swoope]

LOW Gloss wheels. How did I not notice that before? That's basically gunmetal.

yea,

and that is going to be a nice looking wheel..

beers

 

[ARS]

Its all good but when you get to the stealership they wont know shit from shinola. bank on it. Do your own homework.

 

[deeps29]

All good but that comparison with Genesis Coupe is just not right. They should have compared Genesis Coupe 2.0T with 2.3 and 3.8V6 with 3.7V6. 5.0V8 vs 3.8V6 is not justified. Sadly, Hyundai decided to kill 2.0T engine from 2015 onwards for GC.

+1 on Low gloss black wheels. Low gloss will be much much better than high gloss.

 

[stangs-R-me]

That stinks, I did not notice this thread yesterday so I missed the chance to read through it before the request to be removed.

Doug

 

[Todd15Fastback]

Glad I got to read over this last night before Ford requested to have them removed. They (Ford) sure do keep an eye on things.

 

[Clink]

Glad I got to read over this last night before Ford requested to have them removed. They (Ford) sure do keep an eye on things.

That they do, would be nice if they could answer the few remaining questions we have about 68B etc.... :ford:

 

[Robinson02]

well that just goes to show us that Ford is actually looking and viewing this. That hopefully means that they see the good comments and our concerns as enthusiasts.

Oh and that 80% of us are impatient and want our babies as soon as possible. Ford, just take our money now!

 

[DivineStrike]

At least we know they're watching us

Which means we need to make a thread about all the alignment issues and express our concerns there so Ford knows that we noticed and they make sure to fix them.

 

[Nitro]

I agree with you completely; electric power steering is an inevitibility, but I wouldn't call it a bonus. Especially since the power steering module is the only thing on my Mustang that failed (covered under warranty). Biggest plus I can see: hopefully someday that obnoxious whine on cold mornings from cars turning with worn accessory belts will be a thing of the past.

The one on the Cayman is lovely, though.

Also, the FR-S and BRZ have fantastic steering feel. If it is engineered correctly, electric power steering isn't so bad.

 

[Grimace427]

Also, the FR-S and BRZ have fantastic steering feel. If it is engineered correctly, electric power steering isn't so bad.

Especially since there is more to steering feel than power assist. Things like front end alignment and wheel/tire setups play a far bigger role than power assist, especially at higher speeds where there is less assist anyway.

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