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Yea. I just now use the local touchless wash and get the ceramic wash.

I think it gives the same protection for a price I would pay weekly, when the car needs to be sprayed off.

Learned my lesson about the uber expensive specialist applied coating.
Ah yeah. Paying someone to apply ceramic coating is never worth it.
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Yea, well the first time, after the ceramic coating, I thought all was fine. When I got home a week later and finally washed the car.... Much to my horror NONE of the spots went away.

I tried polishing compound, then rubbing compound and finally had to wet sand.

Sooo no more uber expensive ceramic crap for me. The ceramic I get at the local no touch car wash works just fine.
Absolutely no need to wet sand paint to remove water spots.

I have mentioned this a few times, but you need to chemically neutralize the minerals that caused the water spot prior to other measures, including polishing. If you don't, then the spots continue to reappear every time the paint heats up. This can happen on any form of paint protection, ceramic/wax/synthetic sealant/spray sealants.



 

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Absolutely no need to wet sand paint to remove water spots.

I have mentioned this a few times, but you need to chemically neutralize the minerals that caused the water spot prior to other measures, including polishing. If you don't, then the spots continue to reappear every time the paint heats up. This can happen on any form of paint protection, ceramic/wax/synthetic sealant/spray sealants.



Good stuff, I have watched Yvan's video a couple times. Knows his stuff for sure :)
 

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Good stuff, I have watched Yvan's video a couple times. Knows his stuff for sure :)
He's currently in Australia running detailing clinics with various suppliers. They also had a meet and greet, if I wasn't so self conscious, I would have gone. Same for Larry Kosilla.
 
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Absolutely no need to wet sand paint to remove water spots.

I have mentioned this a few times, but you need to chemically neutralize the minerals that caused the water spot prior to other measures, including polishing. If you don't, then the spots continue to reappear every time the paint heats up. This can happen on any form of paint protection, ceramic/wax/synthetic sealant/spray sealants.



Thanks for the video and info , going to help a friend prep and ceramic coat his car in a few weeks and I had noticed he had a LOT of water spots. Will definitely use water spot remover first.
 

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I liked beadmaker for a little while. Then one day i found out you can use it as a "drying agent". saw a video of a guy washing then spraying this shit all over the car, then towel drying. I said hey thats nice. Did it to mine and it just streaked up the whole fucking car. Had to wash it all over. Threw out the bottle of beadmaker in frustration lol.

Then i found out about Gyeon Wet Coat and never looked at anything else. I love the shit and its so easy to use.
 

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When will a company come out with a water sheeter. I HATE BEADS it just causes water spots.

There used to be a product that sheeted the water off the car but I cannot find it any more.
Wasn’t that Nu-Finish or something like that?
 

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I liked beadmaker for a little while. Then one day i found out you can use it as a "drying agent". saw a video of a guy washing then spraying this shit all over the car, then towel drying. I said hey thats nice. Did it to mine and it just streaked up the whole fucking car. Had to wash it all over. Threw out the bottle of beadmaker in frustration lol.

Then i found out about Gyeon Wet Coat and never looked at anything else. I love the shit and its so easy to use.
I agree, less is more in my experience with Beadmaker. Especially as a drying aid :) And nothing wrong with Wet Coat, I love it...
 
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I agree, less is more in my experience with Beadmaker. Especially as a drying aid :) And nothing wrong with Wet Coat, I love it...
I wonder if bead maker works better on cars that aren’t coated. On my mustang I have to be careful or to get a haze but man it made my wife Nissan look fantastic.
 

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I wonder if bead maker works better on cars that aren’t coated. On my mustang I have to be careful or to get a haze but man it made my wife Nissan look fantastic.
You are probably right. I always put on a coated car, but very sparingly. It does haze really easy, that's why I have pretty much quit using it, have found other products that play well with others :)
 

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I am no scientist but I find haze comes with either too much product or if the surface is heating up. Its a bit of a hit or miss for me honestly. I really like the product.

When it does haze I just have to take a fresh towel and give it a few more wipes.
 

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I wonder if bead maker works better on cars that aren’t coated. On my mustang I have to be careful or to get a haze but man it made my wife Nissan look fantastic.
I think you might be onto something there.

Bead Maker is a polymer sealant. P&S are a bit cagey on what's in it, naturally, from what I have learned, it does have a very small amount of Si02 in the formula, but not enough for it to be considered a ceramic spray sealant.

In the past, traditional polymer sealants and waxes have not played very well with modern ceramic coatings. Bead Maker and OG Drying Aid seem to be the exception. But................

I have had both Bead Maker and OG Drying Aid streak and haze on ceramic coatings. Having said that, its quite random, so humidity and temperature play a part as well. This is less common on non-ceramic coated vehicles in my experience.

There are a few things to try if you are getting streaks or hazing (this applies to any product really) -

- Use less product, one or two sprays per panel
- Spray the product into the towel and not the panel
- Use a damp towel for the first wipe and a dry towel for the second
- Alternate between Bead Maker and Paint Gloss, this prevents excessive buildup of "protection". In other words, use Paint Gloss every second wash instead.
 
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I think you might be onto something there.

Bead Maker is a polymer sealant. P&S are a bit cagey on what's in it, naturally, from what I have learned, it does have a very small amount of Si02 in the formula, but not enough for it to be considered a ceramic spray sealant.

In the past, traditional polymer sealants and waxes have not played very well with modern ceramic coatings. Bead Maker and OG Drying Aid seem to be the exception. But................

I have had both Bead Maker and OG Drying Aid streak and haze on ceramic coatings. Having said that, its quite random, so humidity and temperature play a part as well. This is less common on non-ceramic coated vehicles in my experience.

There are a few things to try if you are getting streaks or hazing (this applies to any product really) -

- Use less product, one or two sprays per panel
- Spray the product into the towel and not the panel
- Use a damp towel for the first wipe and a dry towel for the second
- Alternate between Bead Maker and Paint Gloss, this prevents excessive buildup of "protection". In other words, use Paint Gloss every second wash instead.
I noticed a few places on my wife car that had build up so used a little paint glass and it came right off.
 

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Mix up Carpro Ech2O and Reload.
An interesting idea, Bulutt. I don't do waterless washes so I've never tried Ech2O but, I've come to appreciate CarPro's products.

Normally, I just use Elixir for smudges, etc., but I like the idea of combining Reload (love the stuff,) with a bit of cleaning ability so, I ordered a bottle and we'll see. Thanks for the eye deer. <grin>
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