2019 GT500 Mule? Front Gills/Louvers

They seem to be wanting to stick to EcoBoost and their turbo line up, so make it the EcoBeast!

actionjackson83 said:

they're probably having lots of issues working out carb legal for a TT design too.

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Would be easier than a supercharged solution.

Cleaner through higher efficiency.

Going twin turbo is superior in every way.

GT500E... this ain't you fathers Eleanor! Ecobeast!

It has always been Fords intention on camouflaging the GT500 from the media just like the FGT. As stated about 18 months ago, the Ecoboost has ALWAYS been slated for the GT500, as far back as 2014.

However, Ford has been testing Supercharger options, thePill believes these programs were ONLY used from Ford Racing/Roush as a benchmark for their Twin/BiT Ecoboost system. Although, IF Ford can deliver a SC Coyote as a GT Package (Mach 1 Drag Pack) making 625-650hp at a $49,995 MSRP, I doubt anyone will complain.

Ford could intend for a Mach 1 GT Package to contend with Chevy's ZL1. That's how you answer a parts bin car, package car... with a parts bin, package car of your own.

In fact, once the Engine builder from Romeo let slip the details late 2015, the engine was pretty much complete. Yes, trust Car and Driver, their original report was correct (same people that reported the Voodoo). Then again, they are t wrong about a potential SC GT coming at a very low price... but it is not a GT500. That information would conflict with the info they already received from a credible source ;)


Nope... just like the media, we need to play Fords game and they are difficult to bust in the act. Chevy does ALL of their own spy photos... kinda lame if you ask thePill, probably how they plan on making profit :lol:

I know one thing is for certain.

Unless the enthusiast in Arizona/Colorado area DO NOT catch the cars out and about, we will need to be patient. Ford has an ear to the ground like no other manufacturer :(

thePill said:

5.8? Can the Coyote do a 5.8?

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Not likely with its 100mm bore spacing. Assuming the voodoos 94mm bore is maxed, the stroke would have to be 104mm to reach 5.77 liters.

I don't see any way that a SC/5.0 (mach1) sells for 50k. I guess closer to 60, right in line with the ZL1. I do hope they then produce a TT halo car.

thePill said:

The Pill knows one thing is for certain.

Unless the enthusiast in Arizona/Colorado area DO NOT catch the cars out and about, we will need to be patient. Ford has an ear to the ground like no other manufacturer :(

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Fixed that for you.

Man, I hope The Pill is right.

65Terdlingua said:

Not likely with its 100mm bore spacing. Assuming the voodoos 94mm bore is maxed, the stroke would have to be 104mm to reach 5.77 liters.

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MMR and I believe RGR/JPC both have built 5.8 Coyotes. MMR used their billet block, not sure about the RGR/JPC engine.

Is there a reason they couldn't/wouldn't use a slightly destroked FPC, that is forged and lower compression ratio with a TT set up?

Yes... the FPC is not a good boosting platform for torque and pure power. It works on 20-40k mile planned Ferrari platforms but not in a Ford Mustang which will get slapped harder, modded weekly, and put up wet than any other tuner car in the world.

DrumReaper said:

Yes... the FPC is not a good boosting platform for torque and pure power. It works on 20-40k mile planned Ferrari platforms but not in a Ford Mustang which will get slapped harder, modded weekly, and put up wet than any other tuner car in the world.

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Is there a reason for that specifically? I know the FPC doesn't make great low-end torque and power. I definitely would rather have a CPC TT if it's going to make much more linear power.

I hope it's not FPC. Don't want it shaking itself apart. Voodoo is bad enough.
I'd like a 5.2 CPC with TT...if we're not getting a 7.0. Haha.

ttime500 said:

Is there a reason for that specifically? I know the FPC doesn't make great low-end torque and power. I definitely would rather have a CPC TT if it's going to make much more linear power.

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Even though the FPC is more efficient in its use of fuel and air (that is mainly in FPC setups with dual air intakes, and Ford won't do that for cost reasons), the CPC is more dependable with boosting.

The McLaren P1 and lesser models do very well with boosted FPC engines. Granted they are only 3.8l.