With a single exit exhaust, rear seat delete, and forged wheels with an empty tank of gas I was at 3390 without me in it.Anyone have good weight figures on EBPP vs GTPP? I doubt it's 300#. I'd say it's more like a 120-200LBS weight savings tops.
I agree you've probably had the most modified for road course and most tracked EB. Can you give the spark notes of why the EB is not a good option for the road course?I can go into detail on why you'd be making a massive mistake. Your reasons are good on why you think the EB could be better. There's a reason I sold that POS and bought a GT350, a GTPP was a close option as well.
1. consistency, even with the biggest baddest IC from ATM I still had heat soak issues. The solution was meth injection which just one more thing to fail.I agree you've probably had the most modified for road course and most tracked EB. Can you give the spark notes of why the EB is not a good option for the road course?
I'm not trying to spur on an argument, but I'd like to hear from somebody who's been there, done that.
Sincere thanks for sharing.1. consistency, even with the biggest baddest IC from ATM I still had heat soak issues. The solution was meth injection which just one more thing to fail.
2. Overall cooling, the car needs an oil cooler. I put in a mishimoto rad and a 25 row oil cooler but it wasn't enough. I ended up running twin 25 row oil coolers with custom ducting in the oem fog light locations. At that point the motor was happy.
3. Suspension was trash, car rolled far too much and the front end felt like a boat. I installed BMRs entire catalog on the car along with the first set of Feal coilovers for the s550.
4. The EB pp brakes are trash, I upgraded the brakes to GTPP brembos with AP 2 piece discs. This corrected that.
5. As I got much faster the transmission had issues with not shifting smoothly. It needed a pump as it was overheating.
6. The diff even with a single exit exhaust was overheating. It began to clunk, by clunk I mean the bearings went out.
The last two will happen to any GT or EB but you get the point.
Last thing oem turbo is junk as well. You have a powerband with zero top end. The 7670 I ran corrected that as well. I was able to chase down Z28s, corvettes, 911s and more with ease.
My lanky 6'4" frame doesn't fit in most sports cars :( especially with a helmet.Lots of good opinions here, so I thought I'd throw mine in too...
"Understeer" is different from "good handling", although neither is an absolute term, and the latter is more subjective. Understeer can be tuned out of almost any car with good chassis setup, but handling is affected by weight, and you will always feel this in side-to-side transitions and the highest achievable cornering speed relative to your tire width, tire compound, and effective downforce.
The S550 in any trim can be set up to turn in sharply, and have neutral characteristics at the traction limit when cornering, i.e. not push or try to spin, but go into a nice 4-wheel slide. My GT PP is much different in this respect than a stock GT PP, and to get there, it took stiffer springs/dampers/sways, IRS cradle stiffening, sticky square tires with stiff sidewall (RE-71R), and a performance alignment (aggressive camber, some toe-out in front, just a bit toe-in in rear).
The EB isn't lighter enough to fundamentally change this dynamic, and the car will still be one that you maximize straight line speed and brake heavily, and cornering speeds will be lower than the lighter cars.
If you really want the feel of a light, great-handling, quick-transitioning and high corner speed car, you should start with a NA/B/C Miata, Toyobaru 86, or Boxster (older ones are cheap! mid-engine!), then add power if you feel that you need it after getting suspension and aero dialed in.... :first:
Ha! Same boat - "BTM" is for Big Tall Monkey, which was my college nickname, as I'm 6'7". Rare for sports cars to fit me, which is why I got the S550. Even with stock base seats (not Recaros, oddly enough, they sit higher), I rub headliner with helmet. Corbeau seats fixed that :clap2:My lanky 6'4" frame doesn't fit in most sports cars :( especially with a helmet.
Haha my French nick name is "Long" and my English one is "Lanky".Ha! Same boat - "BTM" is for Big Tall Monkey, which was my college nickname, as I'm 6'7". Rare for sports cars to fit me, which is why I got the S550. Even with stock base seats (not Recaros, oddly enough, they sit higher), I rub headliner with helmet. Corbeau seats fixed that :clap2:
Yes....fast, heavy cars with comparatively low cornering traction are absolutely murder on brakes... I was hoping that someone would chime in about the weight affecting brake performance etc. etc. but I guess there's no avoiding spending big bucks on proper mods for the track.
I understand why you have a GT350. Any reason I shouldn't upgrade that way? A local dealership has 11 of them right now and I might be able to get a deal.X a million for the GTPP calipers, ss lines and 2 piece discs. That caliper is a forged one piece monobloc, doesn't get much better than that.
The only downside is the pad replacement cost.I understand why you have a GT350. Any reason I shouldn't upgrade that way? A local dealership has 11 of them right now and I might be able to get a deal.
Things are a little different at that price range though (Corvette, Porsche, Truck+Formula Ford, spec Miata, etc.)
Brake pads - that's all you did to the car?The only downside is the pad replacement cost.
The next best option is the AP kit by Essex, not the Stillen AP kit. That one is a downgrade from the GT pp setup