gtmiller1001
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- 2015 Mustang GT Premium PP
George - Actually...I DID speak to you on the phone after the install. I mentioned that in my specific car I get this noise and inquired whether you had experienced it at all. You said no, it wasn't a HUGE deal to me and the shifter was better than stock and I had never missed a gear since installing, so I just moved on.
I've been doing my own work for quite some time, the shifter isn't "installed wrong". In fact, unless you really don't know how to turn a wrench very well I don't see how you could install it wrong unless you mess up setting the reverse lockout. I took my sweet ass time and made sure to follow the video instructions precisely. Besides clearance issues due to working on my back and my big hands I had no issues during install (yes, the boot is a bitch to get on but that's expected).
The feedback I'm getting from the shifter is more a noise than a vibration. It is VERY pronounced between 5K to 6K RPM ONLY. I can definitely hear gear whine all the time (all RPM levels, 2nd gear more than others) more than I could with the stock shifter...but that's expected when you hard mount things. I have a strong opinion that the noise I'm hearing is not BECAUSE of your shifter but your shifter just transmits it more. Maybe there's an issue with my trans and that's why it happens, I don't know. However, I didn't hear this AT ALL with the stock shifter. I can't take the car to Ford and say "hey, listen to this shit..." and have an aftermarket shifter that's hardmounted to the trans installed, they'll simply say put the stock unit back in and see if the nosie is gone. I already know it will be just because of the lack of noise transferred by the stock unit.
What I do know is the Barton doesn't use a solid linkage arm. I understand using the solid arm like you do may be the BEST option. However, if I put the Barton in and it reduces throw and prevents me from hitting a gate or missing a gear but also transmits a good amount less noise...I consider that a win. This car is my DD, it's not a track whore so comfort and lack of NVH is still a big concern to me.
Dave tried to get the shifter to me by the weekend for install when I ordered but weather delayed UPS until Monday. I have another thread going on some extremely weird electrical issue with the PP gauges and they finally came in Thursday of last week, so Ford had the car over the weekend and I still couldn't put the Barton in. I am installing it this weekend for sure.
I get why you are defending a product you make and stand behind. However, if you're so confident I don't see why you'd have an issue with a customer testing your competition back to back. I'm not here to say your shifter sucks, I think it's awesome. I haven't missed a gear and that's really the most important thing for most people. However, I have other factors that concern me and one major one is noise. Since Barton offers a money back grantee with no questions asked why the hell wouldn't I at least give it a try?
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I called you from work and we use Shortel, so I can easily go back and look up the last time I called your number.
