Will we ever again see a Mustang on a dealer lot FS?

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It is Cali, being Cali. and being stupid as #$%^.
it's a shame Biden doesn't whip out the "interstate commerce" clause and cram CA's rules back down it's throat (if only temporarily). The Whitehouse/Congress reach for that clause at the drop of a hat when it suits them other times... IC was designed and intended for examples just like this.
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Yup, the media seems to skip over the real reason for the backlog of cargo ships off the west coast waiting to be unloaded, it isn't labor shortages.
It is Cali, being Cali. and being stupid as #$%^.
A law went into affect in 2020 that Cali. would not renew any tractors tags that the model year of manufacture was before 2011 taking thousands of trucks off the roads AND to top it off, made owner ,operators unwelcome in the ports and state.
The back log is from lack of tractors to ship the goods, because Cali. thinks it rules the world. And said F everyone we don't care.
Funny the bought and paid for media skipped over this fact. As it show what is coming for all the other states that passed laws with the same requirements that have crippled the nation.
"...the state’s clean air regulations have been in place since 2008."

"96% of the trucks that serve the ports are already compliant with the state's Truck and Bus Regulation..."

California’s trucking regulations may have had an impact on port backups, but there’s more to it
 

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it's a shame Biden doesn't whip out the "interstate commerce" clause and cram CA's rules back down it's throat (if only temporarily). The Whitehouse/Congress reach for that clause at the drop of a hat when it suits them other times... IC was designed and intended for examples just like this.
It be a little too little a little too late, I'm sure all the trucking companies that trucks were 2010 or older already sold them to other companies out side the state.
The fed would have to force cali to allow 2010 and older rigs to operate in the state and even then, What trucking company is going to drive from out of state and across it to the ports, only to be harrassed by the state dot. and make money driving that many miles unloaded to pick up at the port. The company would have to charge such a high rate , it never get traction.
 

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"...the state’s clean air regulations have been in place since 2008."

"96% of the trucks that serve the ports are already compliant with the state's Truck and Bus Regulation..."

California’s trucking regulations may have had an impact on port backups, but there’s more to it
Thousands of trucks were sold out of state because of this law.and The lack of replacements to trucking fleets is 1/10th of what was pulled from fleet.
Carry on. Again, cali being cali. and being stupid as F.
Fact is when you take tens of thousands of trucks servicing the ports out of the schedule , you can't move the shipments coming in. leaving the ships off the coast waiting.
The ports have no more room for more containers you need trucks to get them out of the ports. The bottle neck is the trucks, but the media isn't going to report that truthfully, as it put a big black mark on their push to off the fosil fuel.
The bill started in 2008, but the not renewing tags on the trucks started in 2020. Funny how there wasn't a back up till the non-renewal of tags part of the bill came on line.
Funny how that worked.
I know I know the trucking companies should have just ordered a few Billion dollars worth of new tractors, and took the money for that off the money trees in the back office.
 

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Rental, Uber, Lyft, taxi, bus, carpool. Problem solved. 😁
Uhhhhh .............................. There are no buses in rural south west TX. Ditto Uber
 

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Uhhhhh .............................. There are no buses in rural south west TX. Ditto Uber
Honestly not sure Ford or any manufacturer is going loose sleep over a lack transportation options in rural TX. I wouldn’t expect that to impact their strategy for having or not having excess vehicles on their lots.
 

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"...the state’s clean air regulations have been in place since 2008."

"96% of the trucks that serve the ports are already compliant with the state's Truck and Bus Regulation..."
FFS.

What possible meaning can be given to a statement that says the trucks serving the port are compliant with the regulations for the trucks serving the port, especially if you're looking at it as a rate limiting step? That's almost the same level of stupid as saying "All of the people who showed up for this meeting are here."

Let's try asking "What percentage of trucks that aren't serving the port are compliant?", since the need is to increase the number of trucks serving the port.
 

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Not to mention serving the port is not the problem per se, it's getting it into off-port staging and then across the country. A blanket waiver to allow any and all trucks into the state as long as the dest is a port or out of state should help considerably. As would incentive pay. But the next hop in intermodal has its own share of bottlenecks. So moving the pig in the python for the sake of moving it doesn't accomplish a whole lot
 

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it's a shame Biden doesn't whip out the "interstate commerce" clause and cram CA's rules back down it's throat (if only temporarily). The Whitehouse/Congress reach for that clause at the drop of a hat when it suits them other times... IC was designed and intended for examples just like this.
doesn’t fit the WH agenda, so why bother? it’s quite unfortunate what this country is becoming
 

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Definitely when the country is on the cusp of a major economic downturn, you don't want to get caught with a lot of inventory that no one wants to buy.

Seems like we are very near the point where regulations are going to kill the economy. It will be fascinating to see what happens. I know the news won't tell the truth. Kind of like they keep talking about the high gas prices and never say the real reason. They keep talking about chip shortage but don't explain why. Meanwhile they talk about even more stringent regulations.
 

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No it does not, if your car craps the bed. If totaled there are limits , you are not getting a rental for 5-6 months while you wait. Good luck with that.
Regardless, I’m not concerned with it and doubt any manufacturers care about rental car prices or stocking excess cars on their lot because of them.
 
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I think that I am OK with ordering. I ordered my GT350, four other Mustangs, and three trucks from the same Ford dealer.

The deal is order and then pay for it when it gets off the transport. No deposit required. I knew more about the car/truck than the salesman.

This was my best race car tow truck: A 2004 Ford XLT F-350 4X4 with the towing package and the roof lights.
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I just changed the oil and the transmission fluid. It went from Watkins Glen to Sebring 5 times. With many stops at Road Atlanta, VIR, Mid-Ohio, Road America, and Daytona.

I didn't want to worry about the tow truck or trailer. I needed to get the race car right.

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