What's In DFB's Cabinet?

[DFB5.0]

Well, I finally caved and decided to try a few Labocosmetica products.

AU -
Labocosmetica
Labocosmetica - Detailing Shed
Labocosmetica – The Detail Store

USA -
Shop All | Labocosmetica USA
Labocosmetica – Parks Car Care
Labocosmetica Detailing Products | Available in the USA at The Clean Garage

Semper smells absolutely divine, like an Italian aftershave or high-end body wash......................in fact I'm thinking showering with it!

Also, kudos to Labocosmetica for doing smaller sample size bottles.

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[DFB5.0]

Today I managed to get rid of the Ranger's old steel wheels, which meant a trip to the storage shed. Didn't get much for them, but they are hardly desirable for anything other than to use on a trailer. Anyway, good riddance.

While I was there, I thought I'd get the Jaaaaaag out for a run, give it a quick rinse-less wash, then take it back. That was the plan.

After giving the tyres a quick scrub with Brake Buster, I rinsed the car down, then got on with the rinse-less wash, a perfect opportunity to try a new product that arrived yesterday, Labocosmetica Idrosave.

After mixing it at the recommended 200:1 on the label, I went ahead with my usual rinse-less routine by pre-soaking the whole vehicle, then working section to section, then dry the whole car at the end. Everything was going well until I went to dry the car.................... a complete disaster!

Normally, if a polymer rinse-less wash happens to dry on the surface, it creates a polymer spot that is easily removed once you start drying. Well, not here. On all of the horizontal surfaces, and the majority the verticals too, the paint was covered in water spot etchings that would not budge. I tried re-wiping with the product, then immediately drying. No dice. I then got out Carpro Eraser, nope. At this stage I'm in a combined state of disbelief, rage and panic. There was no escaping it, the car would need to be polished. FU.KING HELL!

So, I grabbed the Rupes, Carpro Essence and a ShineMate orange foam polishing pad and did two quick passes on a section of the hood. Thankfully, the spots were very easily removed. So, I then went around the WHOLE car, and the glass too. Essence is a very mild polish, so that combined with the Si02 element, the underlying Gyeon Pure EVO should be still intact. I did however follow with ADS CSS.

If there was an upshot, the car at least looked resplendent after its unplanned and rushed panic-mode polish.

Now, before I start sending death threats to Labocosmetica, let me explain what happened here.

I used Idrosave as I would any other of the other eleven different rinse-less wash products I have tried. Surely it was the products fault. Well, I went and read the online product description, which I quickly figured out it was in fact user error on my part. Something was mentioned several times.......................

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"Spray the solution onto a section of the car to soften the dirt. Treat one panel at a time."

"Allow to act for a maximum of 2 minutes and never let the product dry on the panel."

"Treat one panel at a time."

"Note:
Never let the product dry on the surface to avoid streaking."

"Warnings:
Never let the product dry on the surface, as the high concentration of nano sealants can cause marks that are difficult to remove."

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On five separate occasions, they mention to not let this product dry on the surface. So, yep, I screwed up.

My defence is thus -

- I've used other polymer rinse-less wash products in the exact same way that do NOT act like this.

- Yes, I should have read the product listing before use.....................but how many experienced detailers do that when using something very basic like a soap or rinse-less wash?

- Idrosave is labeled as pH neutral, so I treated it like any other pH neutral soap or chemical.

- It wasn't hot today, so I didn't feel the need to rush or break the car up into sections.

- I also noticed that Idrosave seemed to evaporate quick quickly.

Even though I was at fault, Idrosave is not a product I can recommend. If it was slicker and better performing than key rivals, then perhaps I would revise my method to prevent what happened today. Sadly, I didn't feel that and would say ADS Hero, Gyeon EcoWash, P&S Absolute and Opti-Coat No Rinse are all slicker.............................and clearly more forgiving to use.

Frankly, I'm apprehensive of using the two other Labocosmetica products I bought. I guess I've found my new bin cleaners.

 

[DFB5.0]

Another day, another delivery...........................

These new Detail Factory brushes have only just hit the market. The foam ones are like those craft brushes, just with a better handle and stronger foam. However, I do wonder how durable they will be. From what I can see, they were designed to team with Solution Finish, which can be very messy to apply.

https://www.waxit.com.au/collections/new/products/detail-factory-seam-brush-set
https://www.waxit.com.au/collections/new/products/detail-factory-foam-applicators

 

[radar]

Hi D
I read your tips page on 7G
For cleaning tyres (redressing with PERL) you recommend using “mineral spirits”.
Is this turpentine or can I find it at Coles/Woolworths when I return home?
Thx

 

[DFB5.0]

Hi D
I read your tips page on 7G
For cleaning tyres (redressing with PERL) you recommend using “mineral spirits”.
Is this turpentine or can I find it at Coles/Woolworths when I return home?
Thx

Mineral Spirits is US terminology, so yes, we would see it called Mineral Turpentine in Australia. Just make sure it's the real thing and not the "water based" rubbish. Also, you would only use this every 6 months or so, basically to deep clean and strip EVERYTHING off the sidewall.

 

[WD Pro]

Mineral Spirits is US terminology, so yes, we would see it called Mineral Turpentine in Australia. Just make sure it's the real thing and not the "water based" rubbish. Also, you would only use this every 6 months or so, basically to deep clean and strip EVERYTHING off the sidewall.

And just for UK readers, it's white spirit over here

I actually go through quite a lot of it for multiple car (and house) duties - so much so I labeled a spray bottle specifically for it :

It's also a great tar remover, and sticky label residue remover,

It's essentially a nasty, smelly, heavy duty, cheap version of Goo Gone ... lol

WD

 

[DFB5.0]

And just for UK readers, it's white spirit over here

I actually go through quite a lot of it for multiple car (and house) duties - so much so I labeled a spray bottle specifically for it :

It's also a great tar remover, and sticky label residue remover,

It's essentially a nasty, smelly, heavy duty, cheap version of Goo Gone ... lol

WD

Me too......................................

Do you use that Wheel Brightener much? It's been taken off the market here.

 

[WD Pro]

Me too......................................

Do you use that Wheel Brightener much? It's been taken off the market here.

No, I just use the bottles for 'generic' labeling

Some are correct, but the glass bottle is currently Stoners, the APC is currently Bilt Hamber, the QD has been a few, but it's currently last touch, the wheel bottle is normally a wheel related iron remover, but it's just been switched to brake buster

WD

 

[DFB5.0]

No, I just use the bottles for 'generic' labeling

Some are correct, but the glass bottle is currently Stoners, the APC is currently Bilt Hamber, the QD has been a few, but it's currently last touch, the wheel bottle is normally a wheel related iron remover, but it's just been switched to brake buster

WD

The purple color had me curious as Brake Buster is basically the same color as Wheel Brightener (wheel acid).

 

[skinnyb]

Today I managed to get rid of the Ranger's old steel wheels, which meant a trip to the storage shed. Didn't get much for them, but they are hardly desirable for anything other than to use on a trailer. Anyway, good riddance.

While I was there, I thought I'd get the Jaaaaaag out for a run, give it a quick rinse-less wash, then take it back. That was the plan.

After giving the tyres a quick scrub with Brake Buster, I rinsed the car down, then got on with the rinse-less wash, a perfect opportunity to try a new product that arrived yesterday, Labocosmetica Idrosave.

After mixing it at the recommended 200:1 on the label, I went ahead with my usual rinse-less routine by pre-soaking the whole vehicle, then working section to section, then dry the whole car at the end. Everything was going well until I went to dry the car.................... a complete disaster!

Normally, if a polymer rinse-less wash happens to dry on the surface, it creates a polymer spot that is easily removed once you start drying. Well, not here. On all of the horizontal surfaces, and the majority the verticals too, the paint was covered in water spot etchings that would not budge. I tried re-wiping with the product, then immediately drying. No dice. I then got out Carpro Eraser, nope. At this stage I'm in a combined state of disbelief, rage and panic. There was no escaping it, the car would need to be polished. FU.KING HELL!

So, I grabbed the Rupes, Carpro Essence and a ShineMate orange foam polishing pad and did two quick passes on a section of the hood. Thankfully, the spots were very easily removed. So, I then went around the WHOLE car, and the glass too. Essence is a very mild polish, so that combined with the Si02 element, the underlying Gyeon Pure EVO should be still intact. I did however follow with ADS CSS.

If there was an upshot, the car at least looked resplendent after its unplanned and rushed panic-mode polish.

Now, before I start sending death threats to Labocosmetica, let me explain what happened here.

I used Idrosave as I would any other of the other eleven different rinse-less wash products I have tried. Surely it was the products fault. Well, I went and read the online product description, which I quickly figured out it was in fact user error on my part. Something was mentioned several times.......................

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

"Spray the solution onto a section of the car to soften the dirt. Treat one panel at a time."

"Allow to act for a maximum of 2 minutes and never let the product dry on the panel."

"Treat one panel at a time."

"Note:
Never let the product dry on the surface to avoid streaking."

"Warnings:
Never let the product dry on the surface, as the high concentration of nano sealants can cause marks that are difficult to remove."

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

On five separate occasions, they mention to not let this product dry on the surface. So, yep, I screwed up.

My defence is thus -

- I've used other polymer rinse-less wash products in the exact same way that do NOT act like this.

- Yes, I should have read the product listing before use.....................but how many experienced detailers do that when using something very basic like a soap or rinse-less wash?

- Idrosave is labeled as pH neutral, so I treated it like any other pH neutral soap or chemical.

- It wasn't hot today, so I didn't feel the need to rush or break the car up into sections.

- I also noticed that Idrosave seemed to evaporate quick quickly.

Even though I was at fault, Idrosave is not a product I can recommend. If it was slicker and better performing than key rivals, then perhaps I would revise my method to prevent what happened today. Sadly, I didn't feel that and would say ADS Hero, Gyeon EcoWash, P&S Absolute and Opti-Coat No Rinse are all slicker.............................and clearly more forgiving to use.

Frankly, I'm apprehensive of using the two other Labocosmetica products I bought. I guess I've found my new bin cleaners.

That makes me a bit angry. I hear Youtube boobs RAVE about Labocosmetica. It being from another country altogether, I guess regional differences strike again much like the UK products that I detest... Another product for me to avoid, thank you for the timely info..

 

[WD Pro]

The purple color had me curious as Brake Buster is basically the same color as Wheel Brightener (wheel acid).

That's an old photo so definitely not Brake Buster (or Wheel Brightener - I've never actually had that).

If I was guessing, I think it might be Bilberry wheel cleaner ?

WD

 

[kilobravo]

in fact I'm thinking showering with it!

Absolutely HILARIOUS, Deyon!

I guess I've found my new bin cleaners.

I have often wondered what you do with chemicals that fail at the "Deyon Testing Lab," do you ever just throw poor performing products in the trash? That said, we all owe you a huge "Thank You" as you've probably saved us mucho dollares.

MOF, while I'm on the subject, I'd say that you are solely responsible for the traffic this forum sees and I hope the mods appreciate your efforts.

And just for UK readers, it's white spirit over here

Leave it to you Brits to come up with an even more confusing name, WD! <BSEG>

No, I just use the bottles for 'generic' labeling

MORE Hilarity! <grin>

As it happens, my organizational skills have gradually deteriorated Wd and I've TRIED labeling the bottles but I find that I wind up using painter's tape and a magic marker instead of taking the time to use the label maker for no other reason than laziness. <laughing> I also give the better spray bottles alternating duties as you described with "generic labeling." <smile>

Haven't tried the new OG Pressol bottle yet but I expect that the same thing will happen with it. :=)

 

[Evolvd]

Haven't tried the new OG Pressol bottle yet but I expect that the same thing will happen with it. :=)

I’ve tried them with ADS Pilot and Hero. Great atomization but you have to be conscious that you’re getting two sprays per trigger pull so that’s an adjustment to your muscle memory.

 

[Bikeman315]

I’ve tried them with ADS Pilot and Hero. Great atomization but you have to be conscious that you’re getting two sprays per trigger pull so that’s an adjustment to your muscle memory.

How do the IK bottles/sprayers compare to Pressol? I got my first IK when I ordered my ADS stuff from the Rag Shop.

 

[Evolvd]

How do the IK bottles/sprayers compare to Pressol? I got my first IK when I ordered my ADS stuff from the Rag Shop.

I have a few of the Ik 360 bottles and they’re good bottles. I’ve heard mixed reviews about how they hold up to alkaline chemicals like brake buster and ADS Wheel but I’ve only had brake buster in one. It’s done well for the last year sitting on the shelf with a 3:1 dilution in it.

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