What did you do to your S550 Mustang today?!

[Cobra Jet]

I lost 500 dollars dude. I paid deductible of 500. so I am out 500, they told me I get to keep the parts they pull off my car. so here I go, ask a question and you hit me calling me a cheap bastard. kind of uncalled for. the full bill is 4,000. sure, I dont have to pay 3500 more, but im still out 500 I dont want to be out of.

if the parts were worth even a few bucks, if someone wanted them and I could get the few bucks to offset loss, that is a win.

Unless I missed it, why did you have to have the rear 1/4’s replaced? Warped trim?

The fact of the matter is once that rubber surround on the S550 rear 1/4 glass has been malformed, it cannot be brought back to "normal". Even if you were to try it with a heat gun and worked it outward, it won't conform to the body again. Sure, the 1/4 window could be reinstalled to another S550 and sealed properly using correct butyl, but that outer rubber surround will never seat to the body correctly. Plus in some instances when the rear 1/4 glass is removed, sometimes the alignment pegs get busted.

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Here’s some more factual info regarding S550 glass if anyone is interested…

The front, rear and side glass on an S550 can be Carlite or PGW from the factory (depends on model year, as some have a mix of both, or only 1 brand). My 2018 is Carlite front and rear, while all sides is PGW and is original to the vehicle as built.

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Fact 1:
PGW (Pittsburgh Glass Works) was sold off by PPG, because PPG was getting out of the glass business. PGW is owned by LKQ Corp.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bi...rgh-glass-works-sale-is-an-end-of-an.amp.html

https://www.repairerdrivennews.com/...market-glass-world-with-635m-purchase-of-pgw/

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Fact 2:
The S550 rear 1/4 windows, the rubber surround is not installed by PGW or Carlite - that is an encapsulation process that is completed by another vendor. I know this as fact, as I had lengthy correspondence between me and a Carlite Rep regarding the driver side rear 1/4 window on my prior 2016.

The rubber surround on the original 2016 1/4 glass kept curling under and was totally distorted. When my Dealer had put in for a warranty replacement, Ford denied it first time. I then reached out directly to Carlite and sent pics and the Rep stated it should be replaced under warranty and it was defective. He proceeded to tell me that the rubber gasket or surround is not done by Carlite, the glass is sent out to another location for encapsulation and Carlite pays for that expense. Ford eventually replaced my 2016 1/4 under warranty after better pics were sent in and the rubber concern statement used was “distortion”.

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Fact 3:
This was also passed along to me:
The Carlite “brand” is owned by Ford from when Ford used to be in the glass business years ago. At some point, Ford divested itself of its internal suppliers and decided to get product from the outside market. Carlite was spun off to Visteon and eventually Visteon sold the glass business to a private company, who eventually sold to Central Glass in Japan. Central Glass retained rights to make and distribute glass with the Carlite branding and the Ford logo on it; today this company is now known as Carlex Glass America.

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[ice445]

Spare should never go on a drive wheel. Especially not on a FWD. Do the shuffle and swap it onto the rear.

Cars worth less than $1500 are exempt from any rules though ;)

 

[EmCel]

Cars worth less than $1500 are exempt from any rules though ;)

Well, he came and liked the car. I was like "you know you can't drive far with a spare in the front right? You should switch it out with the back passenger tire" he said it's ok I'll go slow. He did make it to Maryland from Arlington so all good. Not my problem anymore

 

[ice445]

Well, he came and liked the car. I was like "you know you can't drive far with a spare in the front right? You should switch it out with the back passenger tire" he said it's ok I'll go slow. He did make it to Maryland from Arlington so all good. Not my problem anymore

A FWD car with an open diff can go to the moon and back with a spare on the front, it will be fine haha. Just go to the hood, any hood. You'll see.

 

[ice445]

CAN and SHOULD are completely different concepts...I wouldn't recommend applying anything learned about cars from what you see "in the hood".

Hood cars and "bangernomics" actually have a lot of learning potential behind them. Poor people and poor communities have a magical way of getting down the road no matter what, against all odds. It's one thing to maintain a car and do everything right, it's another thing entirely to see what stupid shit you can get away with and achieve the same result.

With that said, I certainly wouldn't do it to a car I cared about.

 

[EmCel]

CAN and SHOULD are completely different concepts...I wouldn't recommend applying anything learned about cars from what you see "in the hood".

The guys father said the same thing I said "I see a bunch of people driving with a spare in the front it'll be fine"

but hey I did learn something new here though

Hood cars and "bangernomics" actually have a lot of learning potential behind them. Poor people and poor communities have a magical way of getting down the road no matter what, against all odds. It's one thing to maintain a car and do everything right, it's another thing entirely to see what stupid shit you can get away with and achieve the same result.

With that said, I certainly wouldn't do it to a car I cared about.

they see me rollin' they hatin'

but yup you're right

 

[StangTime]

CAN and SHOULD are completely different concepts...I wouldn't recommend applying anything learned about cars from what you see "in the hood".

In the hood, Duct-Tape, particle board, and string are perfectly good materials for repairing your car after you crash because you didn't pull over when taking a hit from your crack pipe.

 

[WD Pro]

Damn, I knew I should have checked the oil before I fixed it up ...

WD

 

[ice445]

Damn, I knew I should have checked the oil before I fixed it up ...

WD

I actually dated a girl who owned a Prius just like that, but it was red. Same tape fix and everything. She bought it dirt cheap as a salvage title and just didn't care that it looked like shit, lol.

 

[FreePenguin]

Unless I missed it, why did you have to have the rear 1/4’s replaced? Warped trim?

The fact of the matter is once that rubber surround on the S550 rear 1/4 glass has been malformed, it cannot be brought back to "normal". Even if you were to try it with a heat gun and worked it outward, it won't conform to the body again. Sure, the 1/4 window could be reinstalled to another S550 and sealed properly using correct butyl, but that outer rubber surround will never seat to the body correctly. Plus in some instances when the rear 1/4 glass is removed, sometimes the alignment pegs get busted.

—-
Here’s some more factual info regarding S550 glass if anyone is interested…

The front, rear and side glass on an S550 can be Carlite or PGW from the factory (depends on model year, as some have a mix of both, or only 1 brand). My 2018 is Carlite front and rear, while all sides is PGW and is original to the vehicle as built.

———

Fact 1:
PGW (Pittsburgh Glass Works) was sold off by PPG, because PPG was getting out of the glass business. PGW is owned by LKQ Corp.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bi...rgh-glass-works-sale-is-an-end-of-an.amp.html

https://www.repairerdrivennews.com/...market-glass-world-with-635m-purchase-of-pgw/

———
Fact 2:
The S550 rear 1/4 windows, the rubber surround is not installed by PGW or Carlite - that is an encapsulation process that is completed by another vendor. I know this as fact, as I had lengthy correspondence between me and a Carlite Rep regarding the driver side rear 1/4 window on my prior 2016.

The rubber surround on the original 2016 1/4 glass kept curling under and was totally distorted. When my Dealer had put in for a warranty replacement, Ford denied it first time. I then reached out directly to Carlite and sent pics and the Rep stated it should be replaced under warranty and it was defective. He proceeded to tell me that the rubber gasket or surround is not done by Carlite, the glass is sent out to another location for encapsulation and Carlite pays for that expense. Ford eventually replaced my 2016 1/4 under warranty after better pics were sent in and the rubber concern statement used was “distortion”.

———
Fact 3:
This was also passed along to me:
The Carlite “brand” is owned by Ford from when Ford used to be in the glass business years ago. At some point, Ford divested itself of its internal suppliers and decided to get product from the outside market. Carlite was spun off to Visteon and eventually Visteon sold the glass business to a private company, who eventually sold to Central Glass in Japan. Central Glass retained rights to make and distribute glass with the Carlite branding and the Ford logo on it; today this company is now known as Carlex Glass America.

there is 1 little pelt on each window trim chrome surround, on the bottom. can barely see it, but they showed me, so they replacing it, and on driver side door bottom door trim, has 1 or 2 pelts. dont even care, I will let them replace everything on car to get my $500 worth deductible.

unlike the rubber window trim, the chrome won't warp. its reinforce by the metal, ive seen several mustangs out and on the lot with rubber trim deformed, ive touched it etc, my metal trim is literally metal, so assuming its shape was good from factory, it won't move/warp simply because its metal over the rubber. like extra stiffness

its USAA"s body shop, they guarantee the work 100% if I am not happy they will send it elsewhere to be redone, they also garauteen it for life. so let me tell ya, if they dont make these windows perfect, im either getting my 500 deductible back, or they simply doing it all over again. I dont even care. thats what I pay them for. USAA charges me more than every other competitor for insurance.

 

[samd1351]

ah. my bad. Lol I totally read it wrong.

but! I do have some info for ya. evidently there's 2 methods of removing the glass. the ford way, does destroy the rubber seal, there's another alternative method, glass workers way, that doesnt destroy it all, and less invasive. I was reading the mustang forum and ran across a thread. im assuming they are using a glass specialist and they use a tool that digs them out easier, we willl see how they appear when done.

im actually having a rougher month than usual with bills, got grandma a big e go 750 dollar electric lawn mower because her hands are failing/authroritis and her gasser / vibrations are hurting her, threw a wrench in works, then immediately after 500 dollar deductible, then some house repairs/fencing, overall this month ran me about 2k more than normal.

so trying to limit down the debt. overtime itself isn't covering all the minuses this month.

if the parts are indeed worthless I can toss em in trash. but who knows, someone may want them depending on how they come back to me.

I had it listed @ 35k I did get two offers at 28-29k but I didn't to part with it. id rather have the eco than 29k but, if I needed another vehicle today, I would of sold it and bought the maverick fully loaded hybrid @ 27k I think its a dope little truck Area 51 gray

but, I read the general comments think the maverick is a bust/fail/ugly. its the only truck ive ever considered the possibility of owning. I watched the video, its legit as tits, tons of useful features for me as a everyday person with bikes/groceries/pulling kayaks or motorcycles. nothing heavy duty

For $27k, loaded, not too bad. But, if you can swing it, check out the Gladiator. Hell of a truck amd it's a blast to drive with the tops off. The only downside, it's way too modable! Wheels/tires, sreps, lights, tops, doors. It's endless fun!!

 

[MikeMr305]

Finally got a catback with some valves.
Xforce Varex with the resonated x pipe. I was surprised how quiet the cold start was with the valves open, i almost want to switch to the non resonated x pipe to see if i like that more. Theyre both included in the kit so not to bad.

 

[GT Pony]

there is 1 little pelt on each window trim chrome surround, on the bottom. can barely see it, but they showed me, so they replacing it, and on driver side door bottom door trim, has 1 or 2 pelts. dont even care, I will let them replace everything on car to get my $500 worth deductible.

Why can't just the trim be replaced ... seems stupid of the design by Ford requires a whole 1/4 window to be replaced to replace the window trim.

 

[shogun32]

Why can't just the trim be replaced ... seems stupid of the design by Ford requires a whole 1/4 window to be replaced to replace the window trim.

don't worry, they'll weld the hood shut soon enough.

 

[FreePenguin]

Why can't just the trim be replaced ... seems stupid of the design by Ford requires a whole 1/4 window to be replaced to replace the window trim.

beats me, but all of our windows are 1 piece moulds. or is it a mold?. moulding lol. whatever.

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