What about supercharging a Mach 1 VS GT500?

[GreenS550]

So, the GT500 has the 7 speed DCT. But, now we have the Mach 1 with many GT500 goodies and the Tremec transmission. Many thought that the GT500 should have come with a manual transmission option.

Ford says the Mach 1 can "hang with the GT500 for short periods". Right until the straightaway where the 760 HP will just waste the Mach 1 I imagine.

I have supercharged a few coyotes and this car with a blower (adds 92 pounds with a Whipple) or even a Procharger which weighs less. However the Whipple or other PD blowers will require the removal of the strut brace.

What do you think?

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[Strokerswild]

Meh.

A Mach with all the toys plus the expense of supercharging it is within spitting distance of the cost of the GT500. You'd really have to want that stick bad.

Along those same lines, I'd find a new GT350 and turbo it.....

 

[GreenS550]

It cost me exactly $6,600 to supercharge my 2019 Bullitt which made 675 rwhp at 7,800 rpm. That's the total cost including Michigan sales tax for me at $64,500. Not bad considering a GT500 with MI sales tax would cost at least $25,000 more.

 

[NoVaGT]

I'd settle for putting the DCT in a GT. Probably cause the car to be a solid 3.8 0-60 that's repeatable, and not just from a hero-launch.

 

[Andy13186]

Supercharged Mach 1 with the 10 speed would be pretty awesome, im just supercharging my GT though. I think the torque convertered 10r80 is better than the DCT for 1/4 mile, atleast for now, but for track id stick with gt500 if possible.

 

[NoVaGT]

Supercharged Mach 1 with the 10 speed would be pretty awesome, im just supercharging my GT though. I think the torque convertered 10r80 is better than the DCT for 1/4 mile, atleast for now.

In the same car, I'm certain the DCT would be faster. Regardless of the distance.

Have you driven a DCT car?

 

[Andy13186]

In the same car, I'm certain the DCT would be faster. Regardless of the distance.

Have you driven a DCT car?

Have you driven a 10r80 with drag mode? The DCT is one of the biggest limiters of the gt500's in terms of 1/4 mile performance for now I believe. Pretty much no gt500 has gone below 1.5's 60 foot

 

[NoVaGT]

.....The DCT is one of the biggest limiters of the gt500's in terms of 1/4 mile performance for now.

Please do expound on this. I'm desperate to know how the DCT is the GT500's "biggest limiter".

 

[17Magnetic5.0]

The gt500 is probably still the better choice. I’m almost certain Ford saying the Mach 1 can hang with the gt500 is purely for marketing. But the DCT in gt500 would be faster, then there’s also the better brakes and suspension plus a warranty and I would assume less depreciation as well.

 

[NoVaGT]

....now we have the Mach 1 with many GT500 goodies.....

What GT500 parts are on the Mach 1?

 

[Andy13186]

Please do expound on this. I'm desperate to know how the DCT is the GT500's "biggest limiter".

No torque converter, fails to launch for now atleast, untunable for now, also worse gearing along with not having the torque boost on shifts that drag mode 10r80s have, each shift they actually accelerate harder than when in gear. Find me a gt500 that has done below a 1.5 60 foot. There are none. Find me a gt500 that has done a wheelie, there are none the clutches in the DCT will never grab hard enough to pull a wheelie I think. Its just a different type of transmission and the goal of this transmission is track driving not drag racing. There are 10r80 cars in the 7's. There are NA e85 tune only 10r80 cars using the transbrake tune that pull better 60 foots than the best gt500 currently.

 

[RPDBlueMoon]

The gt500 is probably still the better choice. I’m almost certain Ford saying the Mach 1 can hang with the gt500 is purely for marketing. But the DCT in gt500 would be faster, then there’s also the better brakes and suspension plus a warranty and I would assume less depreciation as well.

Yeah, in terms of re-sale the GT500 will hold up better than a supercharged Mach 1. Definitely will void the warranty and decrease the value by modifying it. And you are right, the brakes and suspension will be a huge plus. I wouldn't want to be pushing 600-700hp without brake upgrades, but thats just me.

 

[NoVaGT]

No torque converter, fails to launch for now atleast, untunable for now, also worse gearing along with not having the torque boost on shifts that drag mode 10r80s have, each shift they actually accelerate harder than when in gear. Find me a gt500 that has done below a 1.5 60 foot. There are none. Find me a gt500 that has done a wheelie, there are none the clutches in the DCT will never grab hard enough to pull a wheelie I think. Its just a different type of transmission and the goal of this transmission is track driving not drag racing. There are 10r80 cars in the 7's. There are NA e85 tune only 10r80 cars using the transbrake tune that pull better 60 foots than the best gt500 currently.

I was talking stock cars, with stock HP ratings. The modded monster power, wheelie cars wasn't what I was discussing.

Drag racing is a specialized thing.

 

[5.2 liters of democracy]

Ford says the Mach 1 can "hang with the GT500 for short periods". Right until the straightaway where the 760 HP will just waste the Mach 1 I imagine.

What do you think?

This was an incorrect statement. He meant to say GT350, not GT500.

Source:
https://www.motor1.com/news/449932/2021-mach-1-close-gt500-track/

 

[NoVaGT]

...He meant to say GT350, not GT500.....Source:
https://www.motor1.com/news/449932/2021-mach-1-close-gt500-track/

Makes sense.

BTW, your screen name is killing me!!!

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