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Thought I'd give a little info on the difference between the 2 offerings Viking has.

Viking Warrior™ Double Adjustable Shock Absorbers

The Warrior™ line was Viking's first shock offering. These shock absorbers have a digressive force curve for both compression and rebound. This means that forces increase quickly at low shaft speeds and level off at higher shaft speeds. This valving provides excellent low speed control with sufficient high speed forces. Each adjustment knob (compression and rebound) provides for 19 positions of adjustment - the zero position and 18 distinctive clicks - providing for a total of 361 valving combinations.

Viking provides easy-to-read instructions with starting points depending on the application making for easy set-up and tuning. The large adjustment range allows the user to adjust for comfortable cruising to high performance racing, and everything in between. The valving adjustments are evenly spaced from click to click. The shocks can be rebuilt or revalved by the Viking factory or an authorized rebuilder. Other valve options are available, such as a solid piston providing for significant additional compression forces and circulation of the oil through the outer body, thereby reducing heat.

Viking Crusader™ Double Adjustable Shock Absorbers

Viking has introduced a new line of patent pending Viking Crusader™ shock absorbers. This shock was developed based on requests from the pro-touring market and from small tire, drag radial customers. With these vehicles, there are situations that require rebound forces in excess of what standard passive adjustable shock absorbers can provide. The other factor in our design parameters was the frustration that adjustable shocks, in general, are too complex for the average person to be able to rebuild and/or revalve.From these requests, the Crusader™ was born. These shock absorbers have the same digressive compression valving, and various options thereof, as the Warrior™ line. As such, there are 19 positions of evenly spaced adjustments, the zero position and 18 distinctive clicks. The rebound valving, however, is a progressive valve that is strictly determined via orifice control. A progressive valve shock will have a softer low speed force that ramps up very quickly as shaft speed increases. Do not let the definition fool you, as these shocks can generate huge forces at low speeds depending on the needle and seat combination.

In fact, the Crusader™shock absorbers produces forces far greater than nearly all other shock absorbers on the market. The rebound side has 22 available positions of adjustments, the zero position and 21 distinctive clicks. As a result, the Crusader™ line provides for 418 different valving combinations. This needle and seat combination allows for a very large adjustment range. For example, Vikings front tie-down drag shock or their pro-touring specific shock has a force rebound range of 15 lbs. to 850 lbs. at 1” per second, 40 lbs. to 2000 lbs. at 3” per second, and 120 lbs. to 3200 lbs. at 6” per second. You will not find anywhere near this broad of an adjustment range with high-end monotube shocks. Another important characteristic of the Viking shocks is that every click of the adjuster makes an actual change of the force output. While this seems like a no-brainer, there are many high-end shock absorber brands that do not change the force output until 12 clicks or more of the adjuster, which makes tuning on the car quite difficult.

Another very cool feature to these patent pending shock absorbers is the interchangeable needle and seat design. The rebound valving adjustment range can be changed without completely disassembling the shock absorber. With the shock in a vice on its side in the fully extended position, the rebound knob can be taken off and the needle removed with basic tools and the seat changed out with a flat-head screw driver. There are no expensive “special tools” required to be purchased from Viking. The process is similar to jetting a carburetor. Obviously, it is critical that everything be kept extremely clean, as we are dealing with small orifices. The end user can choose from a variety of progressive force ranges. Viking has developed application specific valving for drag racing and pro-touring, where high force rebound is required. Multiple other valving ranges are also available.
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Disregard my PM! Search feature works wonderfully lol

Are there any clunking issues with the Warriors or is it isolated to the Crusaders?
 

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I jist installed the warriors and didn't hear anything on my test drive. I do have catless headers and full exhaust, so my car is loud. But, these along with my other suspension mods is a whole lot quieter than my STI and EVO and had coilovers. I even took a 90 degree turn at 45 mph and didn't hear anything.
 

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I'm pretty sure every suspension setup is quieter than our Evos on any kind of suspension haha!

I really just want to upgrade to get rid of my highway float over the constant little dips. After about 3 in a row, the back-end feels like it's jumping on a trampoline. Eibach Pro's are great, but the poor stock, non-PP shocks don't handle it well.
 

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I'm pretty sure every suspension setup is quieter than our Evos on any kind of suspension haha!

I really just want to upgrade to get rid of my highway float over the constant little dips. After about 3 in a row, the back-end feels like it's jumping on a trampoline. Eibach Pro's are great, but the poor stock, non-PP shocks don't handle it well.
I got mine up to highway speeds today after the install and there was no more float. I hated that feeling lol.

Yeah, my EVO was like drives a big 500whp go-kart lol.
 

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Cool, I appreciate the inside scoop. Soon as someone sends me a super sweet price, I'll buy them. Don't want no scrubbing on my new tires ;)
 

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Cool, I appreciate the inside scoop. Soon as someone sends me a super sweet price, I'll buy them. Don't want no scrubbing on my new tires ;)
Beefcake gave me a good deal:D
 
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I drove around again today trying to see if the warriors would make any noise. Hit several speed bumps and no noise. So far these are amazing. They have helped a lot with traction. I have 305 MT ET Street Radials and I didn't have any issues tonight driving in the rain. Before it felt like I was driving on ice. I'm going to play around with the settings soon.
 

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Nice! Can't wait to hear what all you do and how it feels once you feel it's dialed in
 

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Nice! Can't wait to hear what all you do and how it feels once you feel it's dialed in
I'll go to the track soon. I have been waiting for the stock clutch to go but it keeps holding up.
 

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Beefcake....any word on the noise factor on the Viking shocks? Looking to purchase a set but was holding off on a resolution. Thanks much.
 
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new rod should be here in the next couple weeks
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