Use your paddle-shifter A10 owners or Ford may well decide to 'cost optimize' them out

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See, this is the kind of rubbish that "connected cars" allow manufacturers to data-mine. Pulled your #10 fuse yet?

Read all the way thru.
https://fordauthority.com/2020/12/ford-nixes-rear-proximity-sensors-on-f-150-supercrew-pickups/
For the F-150, I can't imagine anyone using the back door handle to auto-unlock. I don't see that being a big deal. For the paddle shifters on your Mustang, if you really wanted to shift, you should have bought a manual not an auto. I have the MT-82, so not sure how good the paddle shifters are in the auto, but paddle shifters are a joke in most cars.

I know that wasn't the point of the article, but I doubt most people use either feature anyway. Now, to the point... every aspect of our lives is monitored. This is nothing new. Ever seen the movie The Truman Show?
 

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For the F-150, I can't imagine anyone using the back door handle to auto-unlock. I don't see that being a big deal. For the paddle shifters on your Mustang, if you really wanted to shift, you should have bought a manual not an auto. I have the MT-82, so not sure how good the paddle shifters are in the auto, but paddle shifters are a joke in most cars.

I know that wasn't the point of the article, but I doubt most people use either feature anyway. Now, to the point... every aspect of our lives is monitored. This is nothing new. Ever seen the movie The Truman Show?
It's less about wanting to shift, than it is the paddles not being great. There is a noticeable delay between hitting the paddle, and the gear actually changing. I use them mostly to correct the transmission, not to go through all the gears. It's not just a TC transmission issue, my Charger has a much snappier response when I use the paddles. The problem with that is the current gear doesn't stay on the display, and it's all or nothing with the paddles.
 

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Mine changes immediately when I pull the paddle with a decent amount of throttle being applied. When I'm cruising around light throttle it shifts slowly for comfort.

I use mine when I'm taking some corners so I can stay in the gear I want, never once felt that they were bad.
 

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It's less about wanting to shift, than it is the paddles not being great. There is a noticeable delay between hitting the paddle, and the gear actually changing. I use them mostly to correct the transmission, not to go through all the gears. It's not just a TC transmission issue, my Charger has a much snappier response when I use the paddles. The problem with that is the current gear doesn't stay on the display, and it's all or nothing with the paddles.
How new is the Charger? The ZF 8 speed?

Also, I wonder if the paddle shifters are any better in the GT500.
 

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How new is the Charger? The ZF 8 speed?

Also, I wonder if the paddle shifters are any better in the GT500.
2019 with the ZF8 yes. The DCT is damn near instantaneous according to all the reviewers. Press paddle, receive gear, melt tires, repeat.
 

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Wouldn't you just love to see a list of every part in our cars that are monitored by the telemetry system? Personal I do not care. Haven't since I read "1984" in high school. Big Brother is watching.

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It is the auto cars that need the gear display. I don't know any manual operator that doesn't know the gear they are in.

If you have a tune ask your tuner to turn on gear display. It's a simple button push in the software. I for the life of me don't know why Ford doesn't have it turned on.
 
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It's a simple button push in the software. I for the life of me don't know why Ford doesn't have it turned on.
on F150 it shows if you do just one override and stays on till you turn the car off.
 

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If you have a tune ask your tuner to turn on gear display. It's a simple button push in the software. I for the life of me don't know why Ford doesn't have it turned on.
This. It’s almost worth the price of hptuners just to access this switch.
 
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if you really wanted to shift, you should have bought a manual not an auto.
agreed but the half dozen times I took an A10 mustang for a spin (I own M6) I was frequently using the paddles because the trans was not in the gear I deemed to be correct for the upcoming corner etc. And no, I'm not talking about using them in 'M' mode, but rather 'A'. Letting the car do auto-shifts during mindless and boring segments of the drive is fine.

Driving a Stinger or Charger I treated it likewise, paddles used frequently to pick the correct gear. My F150 'sport' trim doesn't have paddles but I do have a 'limit override' feature where I can set the upper-bound on the gears the truck can use. If I'm driving around town I'll set it to 7. If I'm carving corners I'll set it to 6 or sometimes 5. Then it'll demand-shift like normal.
 
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I use the paddle shifters a lot. Under moderate to heavy throttle the paddle shifters with the A10 react and initiate the gear change pretty quickly; they are not instantaneous, though. Downshifts are also inconsistent - sometimes the trans shifts quickly with rev match into the lower gear with a nice blip of the exhaust, other times it's a more gradual/slow downshift (usually under light throttle). Under heavy throttle the downshifts are typically acceptable.

However, under light throttle there is a noticeable delay, and at times, particularly in 1st gear at low speeds, the paddle shift request isn't registered if you aren't high enough in the rpm band yet. That is the most annoying aspect, because if you don't realize it didn't allow the shift, with the super short gearing of 1st, you end up revving to 3k rpms under light throttle before realizing it didn't register (because the delay you are already waiting for it to shift), then when you realize it didn't register and again hit the paddles and it finally shifts, it makes it sound like you're trying to go fast even if you're not.

However, none of this is as annoying as I've seen on videos for the C7 Corvette Z06 paddles. Unacceptable delays even under heavy throttle, and if you hit the rev limiter before the trans has shifted, the trans doesn't register the shift request, and the engine speed has to be reduced down to 6000 rpm before it can shift, then you have to press the paddle shifter again because it forgot that you requested a shift. That would drive me nuts. It's like missing a gear, in an auto.
 

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