He said the tires were well cooked. When asked if on fresh tires if the GT500 would win, he said...."ooh yeah, it's 10mph faster on every long straight".
Well, and let's be real, I mean, not dance around this point - and it's NOT at all a dig, I'm willing to concede anytime I have a particular bias - you're going to favor a GM product over a Ford product. There's a kid (ugh, everyone is starting to feel like a "kid") on another forum, Camaro owner, he's 100% GM only. It doesn't matter how good a Mustang is, or how much better a Durango RT, or an F150 is than their GM counterparts, he doesn't even consider them
Yup. And if he were the shill that some have accused him of being it would have been easy for him to have never mentioned that.
Actually, not at all true. I've owned more Mustangs than Corvettes and Camaros combined. There was a time early in my career at GM when I owned two 1979 Mustang Pace Cars, one a 2.3T and the other a 5.0L. And I drove them to work every day. Maybe that's why I eventually headed Competitor Intelligence.Well, and let's be real, I mean, not dance around this point - and it's NOT at all a dig, I'm willing to concede anytime I have a particular bias - you're going to favor a GM product over a Ford product. There's a kid (ugh, everyone is starting to feel like a "kid") on another forum, Camaro owner, he's 100% GM only. It doesn't matter how good a Mustang is, or how much better a Durango RT, or an F150 is than their GM counterparts, he doesn't even consider them
Again, this is in no way a dig, I think it's healthy (I feel like Dr. Phil ...) to just say, yes, due to my upbringing, employment, other totally emotionally subjective factors, I just prefer GM.
Let me ask you this: offered a CFTP or ZLE for free, no strings attached, factory new, any options you want, no tax, insurance, any other cost considerations ... what do you choose?
This is a point that some people just don't get. When motortrend pics the "best drivers car", they don't give a rat's ass about price.Let me ask you this: offered a CFTP or ZLE for free, no strings attached, factory new, any options you want, no tax, insurance, any other cost considerations ... what do you choose?
Funny you say that. I work in Cyber Security and about 15 years ago my company at the time landed a huge contract with GM and I did some consulting. I was strictly warned to only rent a GM vehicle when we went onsite in Detroit as it was not uncommon for some of the union boys to trash a non GM rental car in the parking lot.Actually, not at all true. I've owned more Mustangs than Corvettes and Camaros combined. There was a time early in my career at GM when I owned two 1979 Mustang Pace Cars, one a 2.3T and the other a 5.0L. And I drove them to work every day. Maybe that's why I eventually headed Competitor Intelligence.
I think even newmoon and millhouse will tell you that I am constantly defending GT350, and to a lesser degree GT500 on C6G (I've driven GT350, haven't driven GT500 yet). My current job requires me to be subjective about all the vehicles I review. That's why I try to make it clear when I'm providing my personal opinion vs observations from facts / testing.
Whomever warned you didn't know what the hell they were talking about. If you went to HQ (Renaissance Center) there are tons of other companies / businesses in the RenCen and the parking lots are shared. Hell, there are even charging stations for EVs in front of the RenCen that are open to and used by every brand of EV imaginable. If you went to the Tech Center, visitors get valet parking and they don't give a $#!t what you drive. If you went to a plant that has UAW workers, a good number of them are temporary workers supplied by hiring agencies until they get enough time on job to get brought on active roll. They drive whatever the hell they want and nobody f#%&s with them. Whomever told you that still has their head stuck in the '70s.Funny you say that. I work in Cyber Security and about 15 years ago my company at the time landed a huge contract with GM and I did some consulting. I was strictly warned to only rent a GM vehicle when we went onsite in Detroit as it was not uncommon for some of the union boys to trash a non GM rental car in the parking lot.
Maybe because you work there
That's why I said as a track driver he is going to lean more to the car with the better chassis dynamics. He bought a 2.0T 1LE when he could have easily bought an SS 1LE. He clearly cares more about the chassis than the powerplant. He acknowledged that for the GT500, the combination of engine + fresh tires could offset the better chassis, but he still made his choice based on chassis + cost.His personal car is the 4 cylinder Camaro so that tells you something
Referring to an earlier post, specifically the boldFunny you say that. I work in Cyber Security and about 15 years ago my company at the time landed a huge contract with GM and I did some consulting. I was strictly warned to only rent a GM vehicle when we went onsite in Detroit as it was not uncommon for some of the union boys to trash a non GM rental car in the parking lot.
Maybe because you work there
At the time I was working at the Buick Engine Plant and later the Buick Transmission Complex. UAW Local 599 represented. Google UAW 599 labor unrest when you get a minute. If ever there was a time and place for non-GM vehicles to get damaged in GM parking lots, that was the time. I never had a problem. I'm not saying that nobody ever did. I'm just saying the problems that did occur were over-reported and for someone in this day and age to tell you what they told you.... They were doing their best Jon Snow imitation (pardon the GoT reference).Actually, not at all true. I've owned more Mustangs than Corvettes and Camaros combined. There was a time early in my career at GM when I owned two 1979 Mustang Pace Cars, one a 2.3T and the other a 5.0L. And I drove them to work every day. Maybe that's why I eventually headed Competitor Intelligence.
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