Thoughts on why the 500 was made if the 820S fits?

[Schwerin]

So Right now Ford makes atleast 4 filters that fit the Coyote:
FL-500
FL-820S
FL-820(Ford Racing/Performance)
Factory Filter(which seems to be a cross between 500 and 820S in size)

I get having a "better" filter in your Performance brand, but why is there the 500, 820S and Factory filter? It seems odd they spend the money to make all 3, which have very similar specs, when just 1 is needed?

Does anyone have any insight into why so many options exist?

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[drive_55_not]

So Right now Ford makes atleast 4 filters that fit the Coyote:
FL-500
FL-820S
FL-820(Ford Racing/Performance)
Factory Filter(which seems to be a cross between 500 and 820S in size)

I get having a "better" filter in your Performance brand, but why is there the 500, 820S and Factory filter? It seems odd they spend the money to make all 3, which have very similar specs, when just 1 is needed?

Does anyone have any insight into why so many options exist?

The main difference between the FL500 and 820 is the FL500 is part of the resource conserving umbrella so it has a longer OCI vs the 820.

The FL500 supposed to be good for 10K+,, the 820 'only' 7500 miles.

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[Schwerin]

The main difference between the FL500 and 820 is the FL500 is part of the resource conserving umbrella so it has a longer OCI vs the 820.

The FL500 supposed to be good for 10K+,, the 820 'only' 7500 miles.

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But then why continue the 820?

 

[drive_55_not]

But then why continue the 820?

Because the 4.6/5.4 Mod Motors still use them,

Even though the FL500 is backward compatible, the quickly approaching 30yr old 4.6/5.4 Mod Motors still use them and Ford isn't going to rewrite all their maintenance requirements to use a new filter.



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[Schwerin]

Because the 4.6/5.4 Mod Motors still use them,

Even though the FL500 is backward compatible, the quickly approaching 30yr old 4.6/5.4 Mod Motors still use them and Ford isn't going to rewrite all their maintenance requirements to use a new filter.



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They dont have to, just update service books to say the 500 supercedes the 820S, it will be cheaper to update documentation then to keep making a whole other filter, and 2 versions of it I would expect.

 

[TheLion70x77]

Ford Racing FL820 is something completely different all together. Not related to the 820S. FL-500S has 150 sq in of filter media rated for 30 microns at 95% eff. The Ford Racing FL820 has 283 sq inches of mixed synthetic / cellulose media rated for 20 microns at 99% eff, higher flow rates, higher burst and impulse rates and longer filter life (due to much higher capacity media). It also has the same anti-drainback valve (silicone) and clean side bypass flow path as the FL-500S. It's simply better in every way but costs 2x as much. You get what you pay for. OE is usually a safe bet, but the Ford Racing filter does have advantages even on a daily because of the better filter efficiency, but it's especially advantageous on a street performance car that see hard use frequently.

 

[jasonstang]

They dont have to, just update service books to say the 500 supercedes the 820S, it will be cheaper to update documentation then to keep making a whole other filter, and 2 versions of it I would expect.

There are many places still use the 820s. Many owners go by the owners manual when changing oil themselves.
If there is a market and they can make a profit, they will keep using them.

 

[Schwerin]

There are many places still use the 820s. Many owners go by the owners manual when changing oil themselves.
If there is a market and they can make a profit, they will keep using them.

Moving them to the new 500 isn't changing profit. Part numbers change all the time. It actually costs Ford more to produce 2 parts instead of just 1.

 

[Kleiss1]

This come on my ‘18 GT.

 

[Schwerin]

Yeah, then we have this weird guy that is sized between a 500 and 820S.... so we have like 3 filters that fit really.

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