Thoughts on MFP or Harrup Phenolic Spacers for a Roush Phase 2 Supercharger on Gen 2 s550

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Guys,

I have a 2016 Mustang GT Premium and I just had my Roush Phase 2 installed about 3 weeks ago. I need to do cooling mods and as you guys know cooling is important.

Has anyone has a Roush Phase 2 Supercharger with Phenolic spacers installed? I spoke about it with my mechanic and the only concern he had was the supercharger hood clearance and also belt being too short if the spacers are added.

So anyone who has installed this? What is your experience with clearance and belts? Did it drop your IAT? I don't want to do a killer chiller, seems a complicated long install on that thing but I' curious what you guys think. I plan on taking the car to the drag strip at least once or twice a month.

Update as of 10/14/21 on my additional upgrades I am looking at or already purchased:

UPR Oil Catch Can (Not sure if I need this)
MFP Phenolic Spacers 6mm (Purchased)
Dewitts High Horsepower Radiator for 2015-2018 Mustang (Purchased)
Department of Boost Super Single Heat Exchanger (Purchased)
Mishimoto Transmission Cooler (Purchased)
Ford Performance 5.2L "Gen 2" Water Pump Kit (purchased)

Update as of 11/7/2021:
MFP Phenolic Spacers 6mm (Installed)
Dewitts High Horsepower Radiator for 2015-2018 Mustang (Installed)
Department of Boost Super Single Heat Exchanger (Installed)
Mishimoto Transmission Cooler (Installed). Trans fluid was also flushed
Ford Performance 5.2L "Gen 2" Water Pump Kit (Installed)

Car's IAT gauge cluster shows IAT at 65/66F during normal highway driving when outside temp is 63F. CHTs stayed at 187F. In traffic, it reached 217F then quickly came down once I got moving. The money spent was well worth it.

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[WOTPULLS]

the injector spray pattern will be different/hit a different spot on the back of the valves if you raise up the intake manifold with the spacers. the best upgrade is to upgrade the pump and add fans to the LTR or go to a larger LTR if you dont want to do a killer chiller.

 

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the injector spray pattern will be different/hit a different spot on the back of the valves if you raise up the intake manifold with the spacers. the best upgrade is to upgrade the pump and add fans to the LTR or go to a larger LTR if you dont want to do a killer chiller.

Never thought about that affecting spray pattern, I guess this is why it's good to ask. A bigger radiator will eliminate the Roush LTR. When you say upgrade pump? which pump?

 

[WOTPULLS]

Never thought about that affecting spray pattern, I guess this is why it's good to ask. A bigger radiator will eliminate the Roush LTR. When you say upgrade pump? which pump?

something like this https://performanceparts.ford.com/part/M-8501-M58 intercooler pump.

 

[illtal]

Guys,

I have a 2016 Mustang GT Premium and I just had my Roush Phase 2 installed about 3 weeks ago. I need to do cooling mods and as you guys know cooling is important.

Has anyone has a Roush Phase 2 Supercharger with Phenolic spacers installed? I spoke about it with my mechanic and the only concern he had was the supercharger hood clearance and also belt being too short if the spacers are added.

So anyone who has installed this? What is your experience with clearance and belts? Did it drop your IAT? I don't want to do a killer chiller, seems a complicated long install on that thing but I' curious what you guys think. I plan on taking the car to the drag strip at least once or twice a month.

My additional upgrades I am looking at:

UPR Oil Catch Can
Mishimoto or Dewitts or C&R Radiator
Mishimoto or C&R Transmission Cooler
Mishimoto Engine Oil Cooler
Ford Performance High Flow Water Pump, flows 30% more

I have the harrop spacers, they are relatively thin, and I had a tune done. My short terms are like 5% or lower. Not sure what's happening with them but it seems ok enough.

 

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something like this https://performanceparts.ford.com/part/M-8501-M58 intercooler pump.

Thanks. That's a really good alternative I will keep in mind. I feel for that price point, the mfp spacers will be more cost effective and probably yield a bigger difference in IAT and CHT.

 

[Proshop]

the injector spray pattern will be different/hit a different spot on the back of the valves if you raise up the intake manifold with the spacers. the best upgrade is to upgrade the pump and add fans to the LTR or go to a larger LTR if you dont want to do a killer chiller.

What’s your opposition to the KC?

 

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What’s your opposition to the KC?

For me, just labor, expertise and time involved. I don't know if I can even get anyone to do it around here. My Roush Installer has it, I asked him about it during my Roush install but he was too lazy or didn't want to do the work, he sells it though. He said No when I asked him if the killer chiller would be a great addition but that's a long story and I think it had to do with them trying to finish the install on time and not wanting to add more stuff. I would be more willing to do it if a shop in Norcal area can do it but seems phenolic spacers could be easier to install for non-performance shops.

 

[Proshop]

For me, just labor, expertise and time involved. I don't know if I can even get anyone to do it around here. My Roush Installer has it, I asked him about it during my Roush install but he was too lazy or didn't want to do the work, he sells it though. He said No when I asked him if the killer chiller would be a great addition but that's a long story and I think it had to do with them trying to finish the install on time and not wanting to add more stuff. I would be more willing to do it if a shop in Norcal area can do it but seems phenolic spacers could be easier to install for non-performance shops.

Stealthy Garage on YouTube (Beau) has a KC and I believe lives in the NorCal area. He maybe able to help you find a shop to install it. I’m pretty sure he is on here also just can’t remember his screen name.

 

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Stealthy Garage on YouTube (Beau) has a KC and I believe lives in the NorCal area. He maybe able to help you find a shop to install it. I’m pretty sure he is on here also just can’t remember his screen name.

I'll find him on IG and contact him to see what he says.

Update: he was very helpful and referred me to the right person. Thanks

 

[illtal]

I have the harrop spacers, they are relatively thin, and I had a tune done. My short terms are like 5% or lower. Not sure what's happening with them but it seems ok enough.

Also, you should know spacers only delay heat soaking. not really prevention. all that hot air under the hood will eventually get you back to what you were at for IAT before when you didn't have them. It's good for keeping the IATs low for a run or two at the strip.

 

[WOTPULLS]

What’s your opposition to the KC?

I dont have any opposition to the KC, they work great. The OP just said for cost he didnt want to do it.

 

[ramirj2]

I got the MFP on my setup and didn't though about it affecting fuel trims. Have this been confirmed on data logs? It seems like a great way to mitigate heat conductivity as mentioned and goggle searched for info on spacers and trims on any platform but didn't found anything, although it makes sense it could have an effect. I sent a recent log to my tuner and ask about the spacer. Let's see the response.

 

[nnnnnn]

I got the MFP on my setup and didn't though about it affecting fuel trims. Have this been confirmed on data logs? It seems like a great way to mitigate heat conductivity as mentioned and goggle searched for info on spacers and trims on any platform but didn't found anything, although it makes sense it could have an effect. I sent a recent log to my tuner and ask about the spacer. Let's see the response.

That's a great idea to data log and ask, thanks for that too. So these spacers are 6mm aka 1/4 in thick, my guess is they won't affect much but I'm curious what your tuner eventually says. And for your data log, are you running the injectors that came with your blower or you have upgraded them?

 

[ramirj2]

That's a great idea to data log and ask, thanks for that too. So these spacers are 6mm aka 1/4 in thick, my guess is they won't affect much but I'm curious what your tuner eventually says. And for your data log, are you running the injectors that came with your blower or you have upgraded them?

I just received feedback from my tuner on the log and it looks pretty good. Got the ok to go to the track.

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