The Trinity fits (Dave Perciak)

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    Interview by Car magazine in Europe with Mustang's chief engineer Dave Perciak.


    http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/News/S...ures/Fords-chief-engineer-talks-2015-Mustang/

    So the totally unfounded rumor that it won't fit is now dead.

    Note that there will be another model previewed at the Detroit show next month. Nobody is saying what it is yet, but it might be this.
     
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    I'm hoping the rumors surrounding the Voodoo engine come true, and that is what will be unveiled soon. The Trinity was an awesome engine but it doesn't seem to fit the athleticism this new car brings.
     
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    Clearly "voodoo" is further out, and it's not a 600+ HP engine anyway. And since Trinity was paid for, it could be offered for, say, 2 years.
    Some minor tubing and etc has to be changed, but nothing major. The space between the frame rails and the shock towers is identical in this car, so it's just a matter of height. And we've already seen spy pics of a special edition with a taller hood, and a big heat extractor.
     
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    So it fits but will they use it again.... I'm thinking no if they have to heavily modify it.
     
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    Not at all - the width of the engine compartment is identical. There wouldn't be any heavy mods... only wiring and perhaps the radiator hoses.
     
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    OH SH!T!!!
     
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    Sounds like there is some negativity about the trinity , the s550 is a wider car so there is no reason why it can't fit… + Need that bigger capacity motor to keep that torque up to the other big 2. 5.8Ltr would be welcomed back in Aust been starved for those type of cubes in a Ford for many years !
     
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    J, here is a cover photo for this topic.

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    So lighter and 667? Yep I'll take one :D
     
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    If you have to modify the engine compartment, then it doesn't fit. IMO, you are MAKING it fit...

    Which means, something will have to be compromised.
     
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    If back read a couple of post you'll see where the engine bay is the same width, and heavy mods wouldn't be needed, maybe some harnesses and hoses, I would add maybe some module locations or something like that. But they wouldn't have to sacrifice anything really. I for one would love to see a IRS lighter trinity mustang even if it is just a year or two. Ultra collectable.
     
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    There was a huge debate over this topic a while back on this forum, I said it then and ill say it now. It fits. There is no adverse side effects of this engine.
    -other than traction.
     
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    Its a pretty ambiguous statement to be drawing any conclusions from...
     
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    Find it pretty amazing that they could make it fit, but i guess its a good thing. Also find it pretty amazing that the only parts carried over from s197 are some bolts and fitting pieces. Even the floor pan is all new and not modified s197 like we all thought.
     
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    The "floor pan" and everything else has a new part number, but it came from the S197 (which came from the DEW, where expensive parts like the floorpan and gas tank were carried over to save considerable development costs). The basis for the S550 is the S197 CAD. That's where they started.
    "All new" is a very gray term... but the starting basis is the S197. I was at the press briefing and this was a major topic. The Ford people had been prepped thoroughly to use only certain terms here. But clearly the S197 is where this came from.
    And it doesn't matter... too much has been made of this. It's actually a good thing because the Mustang cannot warrant a totally new brand new platform. Reusing the old one was the only way to get to the point of the S550. And it allowed Ford to use what money they did have for this budget to put it into the right places. And "right places" is the bottom line here.
     
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    His comment that the Trinity will fit inside the S550 doesn't mean Ford is going to put it there.
     
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    Correct.
     
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    More insightfull as to possible future plans is his comment "We’ve not excluded it from fitting", removing the double negative, the logical extrapolation of which is "we have ensured it fits"...or ..."we have included it as an option for fittment"
     
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    Yes, I think we nailed it back then.
     
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