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The internal mechanisms are definitely different than a traditional automatic transmission.



I've driven an M4 with a DCT. I'm definitely not going to suffer for 2 years trying to get used to it to see whether I will all of a sudden change an opinion that formed over 40+ years of driving.
I owned a 1965 Ford 250 for a few years and really enjoyed the granny gear 4 on the floor. It took me a while to learn how to use it properly. Much more difficult than a typical new car. I don't like a manual because I think it's fast. I like a manual because I think it's fun.
I drove manuals for nearly 60 years. It stopped being fun when I bought a car with a turbo.
 

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I drove manuals for nearly 60 years. It stopped being fun when I bought a car with a turbo.
Yeah my last car was a turbo vehicle and I definitely prefer NA.
 
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Yeah my last car was a turbo vehicle and I definitely prefer NA.
I like boosted 6 and 8 cylinder engines, but not with manual transmissions. The boost loss with every shift on a manual transmission gets annoying, aside from sapping performance. I prefer these to NA engines because they usually have much better low end torque. Most NA engines are smaller displacement that you have to wind the crap out of to make decent power.
 

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I like boosted 6 and 8 cylinder engines, but not with manual transmissions. The boost loss with every shift on a manual transmission gets annoying, aside from sapping performance. I prefer these to NA engines because they usually have much better low end torque. Most NA engines are smaller displacement that you have to wind the crap out of to make decent power.
The M4 I drove was a turbo 6, and I think the DCT shifts fast enough to count as an automatic in that application. I by far preferred the GT350 I owned at the time. Yes the 5.2 is a small displacement engine and has to be wound out, but I like that. I don't like too much torque at low RPMs. It makes a car a lot more annoying to drive on a cold or wet day. I also hate stepping on the gas and waiting for the boost/power to arrive. Yuck.
 
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The M4 I drove was a turbo 6, and I think the DCT shifts fast enough to count as an automatic in that application. I by far preferred the GT350 I owned at the time. Yes the 5.2 is a small displacement engine and has to be wound out, but I like that. I don't like too much torque at low RPMs. It makes a car a lot more annoying to drive on a cold or wet day. I also hate stepping on the gas and waiting for the boost/power to arrive. Yuck.
Just an FYI, the M4 you drove had either the S55 or S58 engine (depending on year), which has turbos that give more top end and spool a little slower. The B58 engine in the various M40i models is designed for low end and has no lag, but gives up a little at high rpm. S55/S58 engines are really meant for track.
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