Spun and didn't pedal it. When he got off it the tires hooked back up and upset the car's geometry which led to oversteer.
I was there earlier that day, and advised him not to disable advance track. I did explain why to just turn traction control off, and leave Advance track on. I believe he just thought it might help so he tried it. Thankfully it was at Byron, which used to be a 4 car wide track when built. If it was at GLD, he probably would've kissed the wall. Live and learn.Did you have advancetrac completely disabled?
When I was NA I could have just the TCS disabled and spin for hundreds of feet if I wanted to if I stayed straight enough and advancetrac would never kick in. If I was losing it advancetrac would kick in. After I got whippled though for some reason I either have to totally disable advancetrack to run it in drag mode without killing power on shifts, or use Track mode then toggle TCS off (even though TCS light is already illuminated in track mode I still have to toggle it off and it says TCS off when I do.)
Id recommend trying to run with just TCS off in drag mode and see if it kills power on shifts or not, if it doesnt kill power on shifts there is no reason to totally disable advancetrac and it will save you before you lose it if you atleast try to point the car where you want to go.
From what I can tell from the video you stayed in the throttle for too long and also most likely overcorrected when it was spinning.
I learned how to keep it spinning straight for like a solid 1/8th mile while keeping advancetrac on, it would only kick in if you over correct basically .
Ive also lost my shite though but that was only with TCS and stabilitrack(gm version of advancetrac) completely disabled and in a CTS-V , ended up hitting a pole at 45 mph
Mustangs stability control is very unintrusive and wont kick in unless you need it.
yes, you did recommend that. several other people recommended turning traction control and advance trac off. i was on the fence about it because one of my runs i felt that advance trac cut power. in reality i probably did not fully understand how these systems work and it was probably something else, and not advance trac at all. bottom line, though, is im the one who ultimately decided what to leave on and what to turn off (everything in this case
) so im responsible for what happened. next time, ill stick with your advice about traction off, advance trac on. seems to be advice that was on point. street tires with this power level probably is part of it. part of it is pure inexperience. ive gotten the rear loose before many times and let off the throttle right away and had the car settle right back down immediately with no drama. i dont know why i was on the throttle too long this time. my best guess is it was a heat of the moment/slow reaction to it spinning, and certainly over correction as already mentioned here. it all happens so quickly, it's hard to recall exactly what i did and did not do, but the consensus from everyone who saw it in person, and everyone who has now seen the video, seems to be i held on the throttle too long and over corrected. that was my initial thought while i was still on the track facing the wrong way but there was a lot going through my head at that moment as well.
i dont think i was concerned about getting gapped by the SUV or racing him, per say. i had slow reactions at the light on all my runs and did a fairly good job of focusing on my car and my lane. better than i had expected to be honest. but that doesnt mean it still couldnt have played a role.
i dont think you're being a smart ass, no offense taken, trust me. i didnt post this to get butt hurt over criticism, i wanted to get feedback and maybe prevent myself from doing it again or let other people learn from my mistake before doing it themselves. i realize i got very lucky, not everyone will.
I ran 22 psi in my P Zeros when stock and got consistent 1.87 60' times. When I went E85 I had to have drag radials to stop the spinning. Now that it's boosted, I stepped up the tires again to a TALL ET Street R.
i like the idea of fewer hard things to hit, that sounds very appealing right about now, ha!
There is a whole science, concerning tire technology, which I don't fully understand. Yet I've learned how to fill my tires grip during heating (burn out). I've told that to much heat, can even make certain tires slip, while not enough heat can cause the same problem with other tires. When my son started racing, I would de-tune his car, to help him learn the basics.
