SCT Must stop selling tuners after EPA...

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  1. Spykexx

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    Seems like it could be as easy as removing the option to turn off any required sensors (like O2s) and people would just have to go back to ignoring CELs?

    Are they going to go after everyone now or is Derive just to send the message?
     
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    This could get interesting, if you update your SCT tuner and they erase your tunes and disable anything emissions related, what do you do? hope you kept your stock parts I guess.
     
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    This isn't the first time. Google EPA and H&S. Completely shut them down for a long time.
     
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    If you have a custom tune, from a tuner, they can give you the file and it can be easily reloaded onto the tuner...
     
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    Really gotta wait and see just how it pans out. There's a few they could go after obviously, but haven't seen anything on other companies at this time.
     
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    Reloading the tune won't work if SCT has disabled access to fueling tables.

    "Under the terms of the settlement, Derive must stop introducing new noncompliant tuners into commerce and retrofit existing tuners so that they comply with the Clean Air Act."
     
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    See, to me this is complete crap. Put the onus on the individual who owns the car. The device doesn't magically make the car not compliant, the person loading the tune onto the car does.
     
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    This is why big name tuners aren't messing with turning off rear O2 sensors anymore.
     
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    Actually, agreed. Off road use is still legal.
     
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    Exactly. If you want to use this for a race car or track-only car, go nuts, as it's perfectly legal. Wayyyy overstepping/horrible execution of intent here by the EPA.
     
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    Thats the tune that comes preloaded. The software your tuner uses will still work I bet.

    Regardless of what options exist in my x4 my prp software will allow me to do whatever I want. The tuner at that point is merely a medium to koad the tune onto the ecm
     
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    This is the EPA going after easy targets to get negative attention off of them. This entire administration has balked at taking care of the future of the planet so badly, they're getting desperate to look better.
     
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    That would require personal accountability, something sorely lacking in today's society.
     
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    They may start marketing them as "off road use only" like many companies that make aftermarket parts do.

    Honestly though, it shouldn't bee too big of a deal. Just means the tuner can't be lazy and flip the rear 02's off, which is a good thing if you're like me and live in an emissions-tested county.

    A good quality tune should still be within the confines of the law as it is not an outright ban. Just a requirement that they bring their tunes into compliance with the act.
     
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    just wondering how long the government will take to go after other tuners like HP Tuner and Diablosport
     
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    turning off the rear o2's isn't lazy. If I don't have cats, i need them off to keep the CEL off.
     
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    And then you fail emissions because you can't have the rear 02's turned off. I've fought this 100 times.

    Eliminators are your friend....or another method of anti-foulers. HOWEVER, a good tune WILL pass inspection.

    I just had my '04 GT passed with cams, long tubes, and Flowmaster Outlaws with the 02's on. It's easy to do IF you have a good tuner.
     
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    So as long as your not defeating any emission control devices this won't affect you? yes/no?
     
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    I don't have emissions. If I did, I would retain the cats and it wouldn't be an issue.
    My tuner is one of the best, so that's not a concern.
     
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