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They have for awhile had critical state fuel injectors that turn fuel too vapor and increase fuel consumption by a large number. Will not be released for sometime until it is needed. Why not? Its simple economics to bring in as much money as possible, ie the more fuel consumed the more money is made on sales of fuel and tax per gallon.
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Autoblog.com reports that Mercedes just unveiled a new 4.0 liter TT V8 with 476 hp and apporoximately 700 lb/ft!!
A lighter S650 with a similarly tuned 4.0 L TT V8 would work for me!
 
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No one has to be at 50 mpg right now, not sure what you're trying to say...:crazy::confused:

Those vehicles will, in the future, allow the Mustang to stick around via their high fuel economy.
 

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Window sticker EPA ratings are not the same as what the standards are. Window stickers are much lower than that. There are a lot of games with numbers to get to the #, the window sticker isn't the number. (I read up on it because I didn't know) To prove this look at any current model and the current requirement.

Carbon credits and blah blah blah all come into play. But I'll just say, everyone should buy a hybrid or tiny ecoboost as a second vehicle, it will help the cause :lol:
 

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Better yet, get a full electric as your second (or even primary) car. There are a few good ones out there, with many more coming soon.
 

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No one has to be at 50 mpg right now, not sure what you're trying to say...:crazy::confused:

Those vehicles will, in the future, allow the Mustang to stick around via their high fuel economy.
Who said anything about 50mpg? Current standards demand 35.5mpg CAFE, and their isn't a single non electric model in Ford's entire lineup that meets that standard. As far as the difference between EPA sticker and CAFE mpgs go, that's just a matter of enforcement. The regulators are beholden to no one short of the president, and unless that president is willing to dismantle the current regime, they are going to demand parity at some point.

Carbon credits equal extra money that WE pay for a vehicle to offset the disparity in CAFE goals. As that gap grows wider (and it is across the entirety of the industry), the cost of conventional ICE powered vehicles will inflate to the point that a majority of consumers are priced out of the market. At this point, many of the current car companies will fail. At that point, the government will assign new ownership (similar to the bailouts) to their cronies. That is the entire purpose of the program. Take money from old car companies and redistribute it to new ones owned by the goons who make the rules.

It really has nothing to do with the environment. For every kilo of carbon we save, they incentivise developing markets to create 2 more. Anyone with half a brain who's looked at the data knows the greenhouse effect correlates with water vapor emissions, not CO2, and nobody is doing anything to regulate those. Why? Because there's not a dime to be made (or stolen) off of it.
 

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As long as it's a V8 I don't care if it's naturally aspirated, single turboed, twin turboed, supercharged, plug-n-play, or runs on natural gas. Just give me a V8 and I'll be happy.
This is my thoughts as well. I hope it is a 4.0L V8 TT. That would be awesome!
 

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.....But I'll just say, everyone should buy a hybrid or tiny ecoboost as a second vehicle, it will help the cause :lol:

I purchased a VW diesel back in 2010 that gets 45mpg all day long.
Oops...turns out you still can't trust the Germans.
 

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Who said anything about 50mpg? Current standards demand 35.5mpg CAFE, and their isn't a single non electric model in Ford's entire lineup that meets that standard. As far as the difference between EPA sticker and CAFE mpgs go, that's just a matter of enforcement. The regulators are beholden to no one short of the president, and unless that president is willing to dismantle the current regime, they are going to demand parity at some point.
The difference between the EPA sticker and CAFE mpg absolutely matters. The 54.5mpg CAFE is only about 42 mpg EPA. And it also depends on the vehicle's footprint. The RWD F-150 with the 2.7L V6 already meets the CAFE standards through 2024.

This is the standards that cars have to meet:
640px-USA_CAFE_Footprint_curves_with_2012_Prius_Compliance_FE.png


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corpo...y#Agreed_standards_by_model_year.2C_2011-2025
 

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I'd be okay with a 4.0L Ecoboost Coyote V8, right above a decent 3.5L Ecoboost V6 and 3.0L V6
 

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Reviving a 4 year old thread, must have been really bored.
No V8 = No Mustang
 

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I remember this thread. Too bad it was bullshit. Would've been nice...
 

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I'd be okay with a 4.0L Ecoboost Coyote V8, right above a decent 3.5L Ecoboost V6 and 3.0L V6
I'd even be happy with a 4.0L NA Coyote. Better yet, a 4.0L Voodoo if they'd at least do it up right this time (with a conventional FPC V8 crankshaft of much shorter stroke).


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The difference between the EPA sticker and CAFE mpg absolutely matters. The 54.5mpg CAFE is only about 42 mpg EPA. And it also depends on the vehicle's footprint. The RWD F-150 with the 2.7L V6 already meets the CAFE standards through 2024.

This is the standards that cars have to meet:
640px-USA_CAFE_Footprint_curves_with_2012_Prius_Compliance_FE.png


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corpo...y#Agreed_standards_by_model_year.2C_2011-2025
Belated 'like' for the chart.

If the EPA was truly serious about minimizing fuel usage they shouldn't have given larger vehicles so much of a break. That flies in the face of any goal of reducing the country's overall fuel usage.


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