Rumor - Will Mach 1 follow the GT350 in 2018?

[Rich]

Thanks ford for making my decision easier. I was going to pull the trigger next summer for a '16 or '17 GT PP but with a new front fascia coming a year later, I rather wait. Hopefully they get rid of those generic fog lights and make the front less taurus/fusion like.

If you are wondering what the front fascia might look like with the first refresh, take a look at the Evos. That concept car was presented in 2011 as the new design language for Ford vehicles. My guess is the Mustang will morph into something that looks closer to the Evos in the next 5 years. I think the hood would not get as short as the Evos, because it looks like the concept car could only fit a small 4 banger under the hood. The possible return of the Mach 1 for 2018 means we can anticipate more hp than the current GT. The S550 platform will probably be with us for about 10 years, so the proportions shouldn't change much, just the details.

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[Marino]

I hope they bring the 10 speed out before 2018. It would be a mistake not to. Also when will the MT-82 be replaced?

 

[Detector]

I miss mine too.

 

[wproctor411]

I liked the Mach-1s from 03-04. Correct me if I'm wrong and this would be ridiculous to most people but didnt the 03/04 Mach-1 with manual tansmissions have a forged crank shaft that was shared with the Termi?

The Mach-1 would need to be 70 or so more HP over the GT or just use the voodoo in a GT with a stick axle or hardcore IRS setup and call it a drag pack, ultra lite brakes, stripped down interior with little or no power options or radio.

Or a 1000 HP twin turbo setup.

 

[Chameleon]

Bring back Azure blue!!!!


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[351MachOne]

I liked the Mach-1s from 03-04. Correct me if I'm wrong and this would be ridiculous to most people but didnt the 03/04 Mach-1 with manual tansmissions have a forged crank shaft that was shared with the Termi?

The Mach-1 would need to be 70 or so more HP over the GT or just use the voodoo in a GT with a stick axle or hardcore IRS setup and call it a drag pack, ultra lite brakes, stripped down interior with little or no power options or radio.

Or a 1000 HP twin turbo setup.

The 32V 4.6 was all aluminum, had the Termi heads, special cams, etc.

I would love a performance + version in the s550. Unfortunately, I would just be watching from the sidelines at this point.

Not sure if there is room in the lineup for that car. The leap from GT PP to GT350 is significant. Think they can squeeze one more in? :shrug:

 

[Br725]

God is trade my car in a heartbeat for a well done 6th gen Mach1

 

[EXP Jawa]

WTF. it's not even 2016. These guys sure think ahead, lol.

They have to, there's a lot of lead time involved with bringing a new model to market, even one that's refresh of a current model. Any new parts go through many steps of development, from prototype to validation to preproduction. And that's all after the initial design work and sign off is done. Part of the reason that cars often go through 4-5 year model cycles is that's how long it takes to bring out a replacement.

 

[Khyber]

CO mach 1 would be hard to pass up on.

 

[Five Oh Brian]

Here's my last Mach 1 - an Azure Blue '03 with manual trans and 4.30 gears....

 

[69mach1-395]

For me, Mach 1 means big powered drag racer. The high water mark was the 1969-1970 Mach 1 with 351 & 390 cubic inch V8's and especially the mighty 428 Cobra Jets and Super Cobra Jets. Those Mach 1's were straight line rockets.

A modern Mach 1 could be mostly set up for the straight line, IMO, while the GT PP really shines in the twisties. The GT PP is really a car for cornering with surgical precision, while the Mach 1 is all about brute power.

Historically, Boss 302's and GT350's are road racers, while Mach 1's and GT500's are built for a straight line (predominantly), so I don't think the Mach 1 would replace the GT350, but I could see it replacing the GT500 someday (i.e. if SAI and Ford part ways).

I would agree the big block Machs were best for straight lines, but all had better suspensions for the curves. Of course the 351s did better there.

 

[dude]

Here's my last Mach 1 - an Azure Blue '03 with manual trans and 4.30 gears....

Nice! I'd still drive that car today, over many other new cars available.

 

[Macfarland]

If you are wondering what the front fascia might look like with the first refresh, take a look at the Evos. That concept car was presented in 2011 as the new design language for Ford vehicles. My guess is the Mustang will morph into something that looks closer to the Evos in the next 5 years. I think the hood would not get as short as the Evos, because it looks like the concept car could only fit a small 4 banger under the hood. The possible return of the Mach 1 for 2018 means we can anticipate more hp than the current GT. The S550 platform will probably be with us for about 10 years, so the proportions shouldn't change much, just the details.

I seriously doubt it that the Mustang will lean toward the Evos look. If anything, they will go the other way. The truth is that it surprised me that only 3 years into the model they already planing on changing the front fascia. I guess they heard all those fans complaining about the Euro look. I can't think of another reason why they would change it so fast. The S-197 didn't change until 2010 model. I also read that by 2020 they will make an extensive redesign. Probably like the '09 vs '10 redesign. Anyways, in the summer of 2017 I'll make my decision. If the new fascia is closer to the Evos than I'll just go for the 2017.

 

[EXP Jawa]

Well, even though the Mustang's design cycles have typically run long, keep in mind that the typical design cycle in this industry is 4-5 year, and often involves a mid-cycle refresh. So, doing a nip/tuck in the third year is far from uncommon in general. But if they do update the 2018 car, I wouldn't expect another change until at least the '20MY, since its unlikely that they'll retool anything for just a one year run.

Actually, what we're (potentially) seeing here is a sort of repeat of the later S197 - after the major update of 2010, the car ran 3 model years before a refresh, then 2 years before a platform replacement. Though, here maybe we'll see a replacement platform run for 3 model years before a refresh, then 2 years to a major update...

 

[Dawg]

My '03 Mach... :cheers:

Nice....

Mine

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